The Doers Way Reviews

I used to be so happy working with this company OUTSOURCED DOERS. Been with them for more than a year now and worked with an amazing Founder. Things turned sour when I was ripped off of my incentive just because of the leaves that I had to take which is part of the company's benefits. I also just found out that they are not being honest with how they present the salary they give to their DOERS. The cut is way too low from the amount they receive from their clients.

Also, I just found out that they are not being responsive and helpful to the Founders as well. No follow ups whatsoever. Another thing is their strict policies towards their Doers as if they're paying them what they deserve. They treat their DOERS like trash, Dispensable. Replaceable because it's just so easy for them to ask for a rematch. DOERS are trained poorly.

We have to do all the work while the higher ups are just busy giving instructions. Some of the training videos are not so reliable. We have to resort to remote sources for more reliable input. Clients are asked for a higher price but their services are so-so.

They should be charged legally for exploiting their DOERS. Pay them what they deserve! Stop conspiring with one another just to put your DOERS down when wronged! You shall face whatever consequence you deserve!

No support when asked over and over again let alone no refund given targeting the vulnerable

For real, and now they're adding another weekly report for the DOERS, tsk tsk. They're paying the DOERS $400 just to work 90% to the Company and 10% to their founders. Worst company to work for.

I've worked for this company for much less than a year now, yet I have seen so much red flags in the small amount of time I spent as a VA.

• We VAs, called Doers, are trained for at least a month in preparation to work with the company's clients, called Founders. One may think that this is a very generous amount of time when it comes to training... Until you've realized that the training modules are all but repetitive and the Founder will tell you that they want you to do out-of-scope tasks using tools you are never trained to use.

What's worse is that the company doesn't give a damn about it—you do what you're told or get terminated. All they care is money.

• For being trained to do basic tasks, the training team are so strict that even the slightest change in font styles or colors will put you on the verge of termination. You aren't paying anyone a million bucks to be absolute perfect beings, Doers Way. Cut everyone some slack.

• Doers are often asked by their Founders how much getting paid. But company policy prohibits us from "spilling the tea".

Eventually, life finds a way and both parties found out that Founders are paying premium prices for VAs that are trained to do only the most basic of tasks and that Doers are only payed miniscule amounts for tasks they are expected to do well and beyond. What's $2000 and $400 sound to anyone?

• Until recently, the company is adding polices that REALLY makes the work environment as toxic as it is. From monthly reports, to weekly reviews, to daily reminders. Not to mention the response time Doers are expected to abide.

WHO REPLIES TO AN EMAIL WITH A WELL-THOUGHT RESPONSE IN UNDER 10 MINUTES WHILE MICROMANAGING ALL THE TASKS THEY SHOULD BE DOING? No one, Doers Way. NO ONE.

I may be a small voice inside a company that doesn't care about the wellbeing of their employees. But there are things that should be addressed and "toned down" a bit for everyone's sake.

Really excellent so far. Happy with Doer as well as delegation training. Able to do things I can’t or don’t want to do quickly. Will get another Doer in 2024. Everything has been as described and top notch.

BIGGEST MISTAKE I'VE MADE FOR MY BUSINESS. MAY AS WELL BE A SCAM - DON'T DO IT. LITERALLY THREW MONEY AWAY.

I spent over $12,000 (half of that coming from my personal life savings) to sign up for the 6 months thinking this was going to change my life, help my business, it's made things so much worse.

Worst decision I've ever made, I feel absolutely sick, so so upset. The first doer couldn't do anything, not even basic diary management.

When I complained they said they'd give free time to make it up... ended up being about a month (no where near the time I'd wasted). The second doer was better, but took an entire month to build a simple click funnel. So what's that $2k for a clickfunnel, cool thanks.

When I asked to discontinue, they took money from my account AGAIN, even after I'd contacted them twice.

They are the worst imaginable, who can do this to people? Promising to help, but really, they've caused so much stress. WORST WORST WORST.

I just recently applied and the trainers seems not to know what they are doing and are not fully equipped with knowledge and instructions on how to train new hires. The modules are way too messed up with their instructions and activities. Trainers were strict but can't give the proper instructions and onboarding.

I have loved my experience with Outsourced Doers. My Doer, Jackie, helped me double my productivity and get out of my inbox. I have hired interns previously and this is a completely different experience. She is fast-acting, takes feedback really well, and is developing the ability to predict my needs before I need them. I did invest some time in training her personally on the way I like things to be done, but she was able to pick up what I needed her to do very quickly.

My doer Annie has been a game changer in my business. It was an adjustment to start but worth it, over the last 6 months I’ve been able to achieve things I could never do on my own. I was trying to launch my online course for 2 years before joining and have now achieved that and more. Would recommend!

I have been working with Outsourced Doers for a year and couple of months.. I tried to endure the $400 (before tax/government fees) for 8hrs a DAY!! That was disclose to us thinking that they would do salary increase coz of the high demand scope of work.. but they didn't.

It's sad coz my founder told me she was brief by OD that the DOERS were well compensated and get paid 1000USD a month, which is not!! This is a lot of scam.. it's sad.. please don't take advantage the DOERS because they're very hardworking and we don't deserve to be treated that way. SALARY AND PAY TRANSPARENCY IS VERY IMPORTANT!

I paid almost 2k USD but my doer told me that they only receive at least 400 USD monthly.

I scheduled a call for a Doer (from their marketing which sounded so promising and enticing). Got emails from OD dictating I had to be on time for the call and to respect their time.

I scheduled my whole day around the scheduled call. Then they cancelled the call by email an hour before the call time, saying I was ‘not a good fit’ for their business model.

When I queried why, I got no response. Seems I’ve been saved a lot of heartache based on the reviews of those who actually were accepted and invested into this very shady business. Stay well away.

I have some good things to say about this company, but nowhere near enough to outweigh the negatives.

I can only say I'd wished I'd read the reviews before joining.

It started out so promising. Seemingly good ethics, seemingly present, authentic and qualified coaches and supportive training and template materials.

The timing of available support doesn't work, My questions in the FB group often sit for days, and having to wait a week between coaching sessions is not in flow with any reasonable momentum.

I'm in the US and was on a 6 month membership. I was careful to explain at the outset that I really need managerial and marketing support. I was NOT told that without a 12mo membership, this really wouldn't be happening. This IMO is a glaring weakness in the program.

Further, my Doer has required SO MUCH management that I am not saving any money at all; and, I am stressed out of my mind. We were building a fairly basic website and even after weeks of support from the whole OD tech team, the progress and quality were severely lacking. My middle-of-the-road at home tech guy stepped in and fixed everything in two days, at an additional $60/hr. Again, no savings are happening, My tech guy has zero confidence in the OD team.

My DOer makes SO MANY mistakes. I have to check EVERY single thing. Typical issues are, recreating an email blast and failing to update basic information, like dates, and the content of the subject and preview text. Over and over again.

Another example. We started a new class, and she grabbed the intro voiceover from our recent webinars. She did not seem to understand the difference between webinars, and the class they were selling. Very concerning.

Additional issue. We re-structured our nurtures for a blast to our email list in contrast to a list we received from another site sharing our ebook. We didn't need the step for verifying emails, since they already received ours in our inbox. She then left it that way. She sent blasts for weeks to people who weren't receiving the interim step of making sure our emails were reaching them (checking spam, etc.). SO MANY customers lost.

Basically, if you want to pass on only the most mindless tasks, and still expect to proof every single thing, a DOer might work for you. I've heard this feedback from many. You get what you pay for in the DOer, but in the case of OD, you get MUCH MUCH less than they promise.

I was given the impression that our DOers make $9/hr. That is not accurate. Perhaps the rest goes to supportive services for them, and/or that number is justified in other ways. Not feeling the transparency.

The program touts thousands of satisfied clients, but there are more like 400 active people in the group, and the coaching calls and FB group are painfully quiet. Often 1 or 2 participants!! My impression is that underneath the smoke and mirrors, results are happening for a VERY small percentage of members, IF ANY.

I did learn some very valuable things, albeit at much more of a time and money expense than has served me. I have had to pull back from OD to focus on getting my business going in a more efficient way. I can't waste time here anymore. There has been so much waste.

I also do not like that I am obligated to renew to hold on to the work I have structured out in BaseCamp, as well as substantial investment of time training of my DOer. It feels like my business is being held hostage.

I would feel good about receiving at least half my money back. I could walk away feeling ok if that could happen.

Perhaps the most glaring of all transgressions is the fact that when I got on the phone to talk about my situation, I asked that the call be recorded. I was then told the call was already being recorded, without my permission. This says it all. This company is SUPREMELY unethical.

I wish you the best in fulfilling what seems like genuine potential OD. You are not there yet. Not even close.

Sincerely,

Dr. Michelle Veneziano

I am so displeased and now furious!!! I enrolled in their diamond doer program for the training... but had a doer who was useless for 3 month, then upon complaining enough about no work from him and being promised a free month (which should have been 3 since no productivity from my doer was done) Instead they began billing ignoring the free month promised and then when I canceled they billed again the next month...

I stupidly signed up for six months based on how well they sold the program. I asked for three months back that was not used once I discovered that I would need to know all the skills to train my assistant.

If I had those skills I wouldn't need an assistant. It seems like false advertising in every way and capitalizing on women's hopes for their business. I don't have the time or skill to be sitting at a computer learning I'm training somebody who I assumed we already know how to do these things.

I wrote a list of all the things my Virtual Outsourced Doer did that seemed unprofessional so that I could go over them with Grace's team when they called to check in with me.

Silly me assumed that they would support me on this journey like they promised.

But, they NEVER did. They hounded me until I paid, made me do a MASTERCLASS omg what a crock, said the VOD's work in a building in Davos? (No, they work in their bedrooms at home with their TVs loud and kids screaming) and promised they were going to "MATCH" me with one of the most suitable trained Doers... yeah right.

But they NEVER called to see how I was going.

In fact when I did complain I didn't get a response for 48 hours. Nothing was addressed or investigated and it was signed with xx.

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Why did I continue to work with them?

Although my Doer was unprofessional, she was lovely.

Plus, I had invested so much time and training into her that it seemed pointless to start over with a new VOD. However, I have since heard from MANY others that my experience seemed to be the norm. so foolish me continued on.

So here it is.

1. VOD turns up to meetings in her nightie. No bra and nipples full on.

2. Wiping sleep out of her eyes, most mornings, telling she doesn't feel too good.

3. Usually late and then takes time to turn on her computer, feed her daughter and then start.

4. Her Daughter pulled the plug out during a meeting. Took 30 mins to get back online.

5. Once I was having a meeting with her and her husband was in his boxers lying in bed in the background!

6. Recording looms, I can't hear them because the cartoons are on and her kid is screaming through it all.

7. Told me she wasn’t working this morning ( when she's supposed to start) because she has a meeting at her daughter's school - this happened 4 times.

8. No internet - it's down ... again.

9. Microphone not working. Wait until another arrives.

10. Camera not working - yeah right - it's because she wasn't at home working when I requested her attendance.

11. Dropshipping - yes she does this while she should be doing my work. Several times I see it on her computer when she sends me looms.

12. She does what she wants in her own time. If I need something done - she decides to do something else instead. arrrghhhh

13. Obvious word doc mistakes. Can't spell. Can't write in English very well, and does not know when to use capitals vs lower case. Has no idea about formatting.

14. Can’t remember zoom password -EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN THE SAME SINCE DAY ONE!!! So, I'm waiting for 10 mins, every meeting for her to log in.

15. Hasn’t worked all day (daughter's school meeting). Finally comes online. I ask her can you please do this urgently for me? She says "No, I’m having lunch, I'll have a look later"

16. She is supposed to be the face of admin for my biz. I make her an email with her face on it. I google her just to check... I find Sexy dancing tik-toks of her.

17. She wouldn’t use her assigned email, she finds it too much trouble to use it.

18. Deletes the whole menu on my WP site. I tell her. "She says It wasn't me - I wasn't on there". I tell her yes, I can see you were on there. Then she says "yes it was me, rest assured it won't happen next time" after she just lied to me.

I have about another 20 more.

Anyway, you get the gist.

Not happy Jan. Never again.

I'm behind in my biz, and scarred by the whole VA situation.

$13k AUD down.the.drain.too

Waste of money. scammy scam scam.

I wish I'd seen these reviews BEFORE I handed Grace the $.

I hope to come back and increase the rating. Multiple holidays, vacations, power outages, technical issues, and team meetings. Not to mention, I think the Doer is running the entire shift from a laptop. So I don't believe they have the equipment needed to excel. I end up doing most of the work myself. So, perhaps you get what you pay for.

The only reason I’m not giving one star is because my doer was super sweet and really tried, she wanted to be helpful. But the main things I needed her help with, like emails and social media (mainly my Facebook group), she couldn’t do at all. Even with a course to follow along with and templates I set up for her. I’m not sure if it’s a language and cultural thing or just lack of experience and knowledge. I know she would if she could though, it wasn’t her fault- we were just over promised and marketed well by the company.

So I kept trying to find other things to keep her focused and busy that were actually helpful to me- and this ended up exhausting and burning me out after 5 months. The total opposite of what I was looking for.

She was really good with the landing pages though, if I gave her exact templates to follow. And spreadsheets!

We also got to know each other and it seems they don’t actually earn very much money. She was so polite and professional so couldn’t really say… But I’ve always been hesitant to hire overseas because I assumed they weren’t paid well but thought this was an exception and learned otherwise. What a shame.

The time and money it took to train and work with her- quickly brought my overhead much higher than my income and I finally threw in the towel.

Ever since I have been simplifying, reducing my overhead, and going back to basics. I even got a full time job again and will be running my business on the side because scaling in this way was not at all what I had in mind. And I’ve been successful in business for 11 years full-time, 10 years part-time before that.

I’m not blaming the Doers company for all of this but they definitely over promised and under delivered and I strongly advise against them.

I am giving them one star because they did succeed at suckering me into their total scam business. If you want to lose money, time and your sanity hire Outsourced Doers.

You really would be better served by throwing your $8k USD on a bonfire and cracking open a bottle of wine while watching it go up in smoke. But here are a few hard facts: they hire and train Completely Unskilled workers, they have no education or work experience related to the actual work required by the founders, there is no customer follow up or follow through, you pay for a full month of training your doer only to find out they cant actually do anything.

You then must spend untold hours trying to set them up to do work only to find out they made a lot of mistakes. It's exhausting and by the final month I was just dreaming of the end date. I have done vastly better vetting and hiring qualified, well trained freelancers on Fiverr and Upwork.

This company (rebranded as Outsourced Doers) is absolute trash. 'Training' you pay for in the beginning is a joke. My doer couldn't figure out how to follow the most simple instructions and took over a month ($800 worth of pay) and STILL couldn't figure out how to fix the smallest email issue.

When I tried to figure out how to communicate with the company about my doer's total lack of skillsets and productivity, it took over a week of getting stood up and changing my schedule before an email was finally responded to and then they stood me up on the call that was scheduled.

So incredibly unprofessional and a total waste of money. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH OUTSOURCED DOERS!!!!