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I attended Full Sail University online. It only took me one semester to realize that it was a complete scam. It took one semester too long and now I am paying the price for it, literally.
1) Full Sail promised me that I was eligible for scholarships that would kick in in my second semester. I made it clear to them that I could not attend without these scholarships because of how expensive it was. Upon reaching the second semester. the financial aid department informed me that there were no scholarships available and even denied ever even promising that there were.
2) I had a MacBook Pro before starting college (is a requirement) as well as at least 75% of everything else that I needed. The financial aid department told me that it was a requirement to get the equipment through them if I wanted to attend Full Sail. The equipment through them cost $5,000 which I had to take out a loan for. However, toward the end of my first semester I was having trouble with the MacBook that they had sent me. I was discussing with my instructor the issues with the computer that I was having and that it was the cause my assignment was late. I told her that my other MacBook worked fine and that I didn't understand why I had to use this one. She told me that it wasn't required and that I didn't have to get the equipment through them if I already had my own.
3) My instructors were mostly former students of Full Sail University themselves. This bothered me when I found out because the course work was not only extremely easy but it didn't teach me anything that I couldn't just watch on youtube. Full Sail majorily utilizes Linda.com . 90% of the coursework was just sitting down and watching these videos and answering simple questions about the videos afterwards. Basically, I was being taught by former students who had no expierence in their fields except for previously watching these videos themselves.
4) Each class was 4 weeks long. Two of my instructors (I think there were only two) had gone on vacation for a week during these courses (yes they were seperate instructors for seperate courses) leaving a sub to teach us. These subs did not know anything about the courses and were unable to answer any questions.
5) After withdrawing from Full Sail University I mediated with the University through the BBB in an attempt to negotiate refunding my tuition because of the lies that they had told and the poor education that I had recieved. Full Sail adamantly refused to refund anything. However, they offered to knock off the cost of the one week that I had attended in my second semester. I refused this offer. I refused it because accepting it would have been viewed as a "settlement" between Full Sail University and myself. One week of tuition would not fix the thousands of dollars that they had scammed me out of.
6) I had even offered to return all of the equipment that they had sent me (which was mostly unipened and still in the box) if they would refund my $5,000 but they refused. I was wondering why they would refuse to do that and so I did some research. It turns out that the equipment and books that they send you (which they say costs $5000 in itself) actually only costs approximately $3,500 which gives them a profit of $1,500 by scamming the students.
7) They tell you that their courses transfer. This is a lie. Not a single one of the courses that I took were able to be transfered anywhere.
8) My tuition lender was FedLoan Servicing. This means that I owe FedLoan the money for my tuition in loans that I have to repay. If I owe FedLoan then why was I recieving phone calls and mail from Full Sail reminding me that I need to pay my loans? I told them specifically to not make contact with me ever again. They did however make contact again. I spoke with the dean via phone and told him that I was being harassed by the financial aid department and he apologized on their behalf and told me that once a student tells them to not male contact that they are not allowed to. Since then I have not heard from Full Sail University.
I have not gone silent. I am gathering information and am putting together proof of what they have done to me. As it stands, without proof, it is their word against mine. I believe that If I were to initiate a lawsuit now that they would rather settle outside of court since their lawyers would cost more than the tuition that they should be reimbursing me. They know that they are in the wrong and what they have done. I fully intend on not paying a dime of these loans because they will pay it on my behalf once I sue them. This I have faith in because they are openly crooked.
So far that has been my experience with Full Sail. I entered the Mobile Gaming Masters degree and so far my education has consisted of nothing more than Lynda.com and YouTube videos. I have yet to have an instructor that actually has any experience in the Mobile Gaming Industry, they have either been last years graduates or someone from another field. And yes they will lye to you during the enrollment process. I told them that I had a job when I first talked to them and they told me not to worry because the amount of class time that was needed was only 25 to 30 hours a week, and if I could handle that I would be fine. In reality, I have had to spend 50 to 60 hours a week on course work, my job has suffered, and this school is costing me more than just tuition. Thankfully this semester is almost over and it will be, Goodby Full Sail.[_extra_org][/_extra_org]
Guys: here's a heads up (for you and anyone else reading here.
No legitimate college/university has most or all of their coursework ONLINE in the form of videos. You can watch videos for FREE. That is not "college".
No legitimate college/university SELLS YOU a computer. This is the 2000s. You can buy a computer online or at dozens of legitimate stores. You can get a MacBook at Costco. The prices are openly available, so a SCHOOL charging you for a computer or other equipment (and adding 35% profit on it!) is totally scamming you.
BTW: APPLE offers very substantial DISCOUNTS to students and teachers, so it makes zero sense they would surcharge you for this stuff.
I went to Full Sail a while back and I'll be the first to tell you that anyone on here saying they "graduated from Full Sail" and isn't telling you how horrible it is is absolutely being paid to combat the negative attention this "school" has gotten. One thing Full Sail is great with is sales through emotional triggers rather than logic. Don't speak to them unless you're experienced with things like this or are accompanied by someone who is. If for any reason you want to transfer, like when you realize that you're wasting your time and loads of money, credits will not transfer out. I and many of my friends realized the rip off of the Recording Arts degree about half way through. I can't speak for other degree programs but I will say that I could've gotten the same education from youtube and my internship and a local recording studio and been better off. Luckily I left full sail half way through my Recording Arts degree and unfortunately had to start over again on my Associate's. I've decided that I will eventually apply for law school but am concerned that my Full Sail transcripts WILL be recognized by LSAC. They were not recognized by my current schools or others so I assumed they wouldn't for law school either. Fingers crossed!
LISTEN TO THOSE ON HERE WHO WORKED AT FULL SAIL!!! THIS SCHOOL IS RIPPING YOU OFF!!!
Why rate it 5 stars then?
If you were,indeed, a teacher. Why is your grammar so deplorable? You either are lying or we see why you only lasted a year...[_extra_org][/_extra_org]
This site is a scam. Don't believe anything you read here. Check out reviews on them. [If this even gets posted, watch it come down in a hurry.][_extra_org][/_extra_org]
Tacoma and John Wayne almost definitely work for full sail.[_extra_org][/_extra_org]
"John Wayne" - That's hilarious. Your grammar is worse than CAR's. I couldn't find any real mistakes in his, while yours shows a lack of a grasp of punctuation works.
I'm not an animator but I did get a traditional BFA from a highly respected art college.
I can tell you that real animators START OFF FIRST with a classical arts education -- meaning stuff like anatomy classes -- life drawing EVERY SEMESTER -- still life drawing -- painting courses (not just computer art, the real stuff) -- painting and drawing FROM LIVE MODELS -- sculpture (to learn 3-D skills -- and that is JUST THE BASELINE.
And these must be learned in real time, not "videos" -- a real instructor -- real models -- so you can questions and also interface with other students (how did he or she draw that same object and can you learn from them?).
If you don't have that solid basis... all the MacBooks and high tech stuff won't mean a thing. And it can't be learned from YouTube or Lynda videos.
My oldest son wants to pursue a degree in Gaming Art. He can draw anything and like most teenagers/young adults he loves gaming. He found Full Sail online while researching colleges/universities that offer some kind of "gaming" degree. He is currently a freshman at Ouachita Baptist University in Arkadelphia, Arkansas. OBU is private Baptist liberal arts university. It's tuition is the second highest in private universities in the state behind Harding. Roughly $15,000 a semester! He originally wanted to be a History Professor but his love of art, music and gaming would not sit silently in the background. They pushed their way to the front and demanded to be addressed. One can not ignore what one loves to do. So it makes perfect sense for him to go to a school that offers the resources for him to be trained, if you will, in what he loves to do. Once you become an adult and enter the work force it makes for a very long miserable life, even if you're getting paid a lot of money, if you aren't happy with your job. So you might as well get paid to do something you love to do.
I've read several reviews concerning this school. Both good and bad. I may be wrong, and if so I apologize up front, but from what I've read from those that are so disappointed in this school it seems like they may not have realized exactly what kind of school this probably is. For a lack of better terms this school appears to be nothing more than a vo-tech school. It is not a "traditional" college/university so it will not be like those. It offers classes geared specifically for a particular skill set. It seems no different that someone going to a mechanics school to learn how to be a mechanic or like myself, going to school to be a Paramedic. I do not HAVE to have a Bachelor's Degree to save your life but I DO, however, need the SKILLS and KNOWLEDGE to be able to do so.
As far as finding a job after graduation, in these types of specific fields, ones that require a lot of "hands on experience" the piece of paper that you're handed when you graduate is useless regardless of where you graduate from. I would imagine that students from this school probably come in contact with people in their field of study and work with them at some point. Much like I had to do in Paramedic school when I did my internship and the local emergency rooms and ambulance services. Even though I was a student, I was already being evaluated by prospective employers. So after I graduated and applied at the busiest ambulance service in the central Arkansas area, they were already familiar with me, how I conducted myself, knew how much I had improved with my knowledge and skills and whether I was going to be an asset to the company. This school sounds like that's what it's suppose to do. But in the end, it's all on the student, their knowledge and their skill to get the job.
So with all that being said, my question is this, is Full Sail University a good choice for my son to attend if he has the passion, desire and dedication to draw and design video games? I haven't, as of yet, come across a "traditional" college/university that offers this kind of "hands on" education that I honestly think he will need to be successful in this line of work. If there is a "traditional" college/university out there that offers this, please tell me the
name(s) so I can research them.
Lastly, one thing I've learned during my 20 years of being a Paramedic is that you can't put a price tag on doing whatever it takes to do a job you love and are meant to do. Life should be lived being happy. Work shouldn't interrupt that. You spend the majority of your life at work. If you aren't happy doing what you're doing, then you won't be truly happy in any other part of your life either. Good luck to all those starting out. May you always be happy and successful!
The problem is... a LOT of young people want jobs in the gaming industry (because they love to PLAY games). That doesn't translate into a ton of job openings.
It is beyond awful to pay money for ANY degree and then find out there are no jobs, or a lack of jobs, or the jobs pay far below what you expected. Heck, I know LAWYERS -- actual lawyers with real law degrees -- who graduated decent state law schools with decent grades (but not TOP law schools with TOP grades) and got out, and found they had to take freelance, part time jobs that were no better than what they could get with a paralegal certificate for 1/10th the cost.
WHY? because the US made law jobs seen "glamorous and high paying" so millions of students went into an already over-filled field.
And yes, Full Sail (what an embarrassing name!) is nothing but an overgrown vocational/tech school -- probably OK enough 30 years ago to teach sound engineering -- but absolutely NOT adequate to grant bachelors or master's degrees in ANYTHING.
On top of that, the cost exceeds by at least 5-6 times what a vocational degree from a community college costs -- and approaches the cost of a private university for 4 years -- for "degrees" that are not transferable or recognized by most industries -- and will take 25 years to repay at $$$$ interest.
Lots of people study things in college, thinking they will go into theatre and be an actor -- or they study literature and think they will write the Great American Novel -- and not 1 in 1000 really ever gets to do this. Hopefully a real degree at a real college will give them OTHER JOB OPTIONS and not fool them that everyone can be a movie star or best selling writer. Because that is just not true.
Full Sail seems like a good school, I spoke to a representative and he informed me about the Media and Communications degree.
I would really appreciate some ones opinion about that Media and Communications Program. Is it worth $56,000, for just a Bachelors Degree?
THANK YOU!
Im going to attempt to address this issue in a gray area to blend the 2 concerns over Full Sail. Overlook the typos if we have any grammar experts out there.
Full Sail is a decent school. No they are regionally accredited but they do have useful tools all dependent on what your wanting to do. However you must be willing to accept that "opportunity" may not be next door, you may have to move in order to get the job you want.
I have attended both a public college and a private college and really both have different attributes. The local community college is cheaper a private is more expensive; it is a capatalist system in the US. Regarding the quality of education; Full Sail has given me a quality education and yes it is expensive but its what worked for me at that time. Ironically I have been to the regional school and they place a book infant and say do whats inside, there's really no instruction just a grading system. So again it depends on what you're looking for.
You will incur a large bill at Full Sail but you also get the convenience of having a lot of tools at your disposal as well. You are also welcome to "refresh" your skill set by returning at no cost; try that at a regional college.
Addressing the laughingstock issue; I have never had anyone laugh at someone trying to better themselves through any school, even places like strayer, devry, ITT etc. People are doing something to make themselves more appealing. Even some of the so-called regional schools that have the ability to transfer credit far exceed Full Sail tuition costs. Try searching Academy of Art in San Francisco, or the Art Institutes both are regional schools. But a question for me to ask you is why would you want to transfer if you are getting the training you need? Secondly Full Sail accepts credit from jr. colleges as well so in short I guess you should pick the one you want and go to it. I can say Full Sail has been good to me and I think it is a good choice.
I am currently a online Full Sail student and I have had pretty good experiences with my advisors and teachers. I can say that some teachers take longer to respond to you than others. But honestly everyone is not cut out for such an advanced and fast paced institute like Full Sail. I live in Atlanta, have a full time job in public health, a single parent and I own a dance company. Not to mention all the activities my daughter is involved in. Yet I am still able to complete my work and get pretty good grades.
Prior to Full Sail I attended AIU and studied in media productions. I eventually had to drop out because I couldn't afford the extra cost of books, supplies and parking. Can you believe that parking was over 80.00 a month? The support there can not compare to the support that Full Sail offers. Full Sail is pretty costly but there aren't any hidden expenses and they provide you with all the equipment that you need. Also after graduation you are able to take class for free to stay current with changes in your field. At the end if the day everyone will have their opinion. My advice is to do your own research, weigh your options and decide if you are cut out for this. Remember that everyone is different and everyones experience will be different as well. Only the strong will survive!
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I signed up with this school's online course because I want to become a writer, I want to write fiction novels. Instead they are trying to turn my focus onto script writing instead saying thats what 'I Really want to do'. And on top of that I have mentioned I am uncomfortable making phone calls YET THEY CALL ME EVERY WEEK. Its driving me crazy and they don't even have anything to say, they are only calling to ask if I have any questions. Now if I did have questions..wouldnt I call them? Oh and once i figured if I come up with one for them then Maybe they would leave me alone? Nope! The guy i was talking to starts saying he's going to personally email me resources and gave me some long information that had NOTHING to do with I asked about! I am exhausted, I just want to write.
And now im finding out my credits dont transfer anywhere so either I'm stuck in this expesive school paying or I can leave and lose all my credits leaving me to start over compleatly.
Based on Computer Animation, graduate review-
I heard about Full Sail while in Iraq for 1 year. After coming home, I fell into the trap everyone else did that went to this school. The promise of job placement in a field I was quite interested in. Being one of the oldest students in my class (26) I put everything into it, watched 80% of my class mates fall behind due to failing out or plain out walking away, they do "weed out". About half way through the program my eyes were opened and I could see exactly what was going on, but the money was already invested so I refused to walk out without the degree. The place crams all its rooms with as many students as possible and classes/labs run 24/7. You could have class at 8am and labs at 1am. They will throw you in anywhere to fit as many kids as possible in. Feels like a sweat shop. Having a job during this was impossible because every week this schedule would change, if you want to pass a job is out of the question anyways. So extra funding had to be pulled via salliemae loan just to pay for the high costs out there.
Programs like this, pumping out 30 grads a month, also causes a bottle neck in the job field. There are more grads in a month at full sail than there are new jobs opening... So someone has to lose. This isn't the only school that does it either. These schools just saturate the field. And by reading afew other reviews I see that they offer online courses now... Outstanding... They ran out of room so pushed it digital to get even more saturation.
Another thing I was rather upset about is the instructors do have a slight amount of experience in their field, tho none are certified teachers, just knowledgable in that subject, your time with them is almost nil for help. Instead for labs you get stuck with a full sail grad that just couldn't find a job (that line is pretty long). They ask you to open your book and do chapter 3. That's it. All the hands on is taught through a book. If you have questions, good chance the lab monitor doesn't know or they are busy working on a new demo reel to try to find a job. It was rediculous. I seriously taught myself every bit of the knowledge I came out with because no one there knew how to do environment art. I could have gotten the same education by buying my own books and watching some online training videos for about 1/50th the cost.
In the end I only failed 1 class, but it was the final demo reel class so I could have 2 more months to work on my demo reel. No one that did it in the 2 months provided had anything good to show... Working 20 hours a day on it, 2 months is just way too short a time period for anything that will get you a job with. So plan on adding atleast 2 more months to how long you will be there flat out with no failures.
So I graduated pretty high in my class. They handed me my diploma then my bill and closed the door as I walked off the stage. To this day I have only received ONE job opportunity email from them. ONE! It was for an unpaid internship at Nickelodeon... Not even my field of expertise. I have no idea where they got that 4 out of 5 students get a job remark at the open house. Maybe they meant a job at Walmart?
So the bill... $70,000 after interest, after all was said and done. I had to move back in with my mother and even then I was still eating Raman, school loans costing me almost $800 a month. I did have afew art tests with major companies but didn't make the final cut. Talking to the friends I had that did make it, they were in it just as bad. The job field only pays about >30k/yr so even with a job you are loosing 50% of your income to sallie Mae (Navient now). I actually turned the training around and used it to get into a technical field (IT) where I currently still stand, making 3x what computer animation would have paid. 9 years later I have only paid off about 1/3rd the amount of my original bill without missing a payment (credit score is through the roof at least).
There used to be a site called fullsailsucks.com. I began saying what seems to be the lingo at the school towards bad feedback, you hear it a bunch, even see it in these reviews..., "he must just be mad because he sucked and didn't put enough into it". The word Denial comes to mind. After graduating I understood what the guy that made that site was talking about.
Please don't fall for their BS, this field is a dead end, with a market this saturated, and only guarantees a life of pain and suffering. The only thing I am proud of is being able to accomplish what I did without ever giving up and holding my ground, but the disappointment far outweighs that... I will be in my late 40's with my kids in high school before I even have that time wasted in my life paid off.
Jeremy Galyon
Class of August 2006