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Vector Marketing booths are almost as common as vending machines on college campuses.  In between classes and close to holiday breaks, business suit clad representatives hand out flyers offering students the ultimate summer job starting at $16 an hr...So why is there a group of over 7,000 students claiming that it's a Vector Marketing Scam?

The majority of problems regarding the Vector Corporation stem from their deceptive recruiting practices.  No where on their promotional material does it state what the actual "job" is going to be, students are simply given a phone number and encouraged to call for an interview.

The actual job is commission based direct sales for Cutco kitchen knives, obviously not the dream job for college kids, and the reason for the vague job ads.  After your interview you'll be required to purchase your own demo knife set at $145, another topic that doesn't sit well with students against Vector Marketing.  However, that money acts as a deposit and is refunded when you end your professional relationship with the company.

Students also have to attend several days of unpaid training where they learn how to conduct in-home presentations for these high end knives.  When you're ready, Vector Marketing managers will encourage you to sell to your relatives first as they're a much more receptive audience, unlike the one you'll be facing day-to-day.

In the past the negative issues with Vector Marketing have been addressed in court, and in several states the company has been ordered to cease deceptive employee recruiting practices and false hourly promises.

The plus side to Vector Marketing is that for talented and ambitious individuals there are definitely opportunities.  The company promotes heavily from within and all managers are former sales reps.  Also, if you do work for a fair amount of time you can use the sales experience to land better jobs out of college.

I've researched many business opportunities and I have to say that it's not a Vector Marketing Scam.  However, to truly succeed with the company you either need real world sales experience or a talent for in-home sales, traits not popular among high school graduates and college freshmen.

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Anonymous   Location unknown

10:44pm on Monday, February 8th, 2010

OKkkk, so i never Sold the knives themselves but i was a receptionist. I was the girl you call and sets you up for appointments. I worked there two summers and I saw firsthand a bunch of representatives fail and have the same complaints you do. On the other hand, i saw representatives do REALLY great and make 3000 dollars in two weeks ( happened BOTH summers). Back home (where i worked with vector), my city is small about 200.000 people, but those representative who actually invested their TIME did really well. Im pretty sure all these people who complain were just bad sales people. My mom has these knifes and they were really good. My mom is NOWHERE near rich and she liked them soo much she bought them. stop making excuses for ur failure with this company. It wasnt the company's fault, it was your own fault for being LAZY.

eb   wa

4:53pm on Sunday, June 28th, 2009 

ok so i got involved with vector a few days ago. i totally was happy to get the job. ive been out of a job for a while and no luck getting hired. well they had me come in for an interview which lasted almost 3 hours long. it was a 3 part interview. first me and two others would meet with the interview and were asked a few questions then we were asked to come to the second part of the interview which was a group interview about 30 of us..no lie. then we were called back individually to be told whether or not we got the job. i did get the job and was asked to come back for 3 training days. i did in fact go to the training seminar and just to see a bunch of teens and not a few there was 87 of us there and most of the ppl were from the interview i had before. but note the adults at the interview were not there it was a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds. i am 20 i felt like i was the oldest one there. so i did think that was pretty odd but i didnt think of it. well i came back for the next one everything was going okay until the 3rd day when infact i figured something was not quite right. they previously made it seem like they would have a call list ready for you with ppl who are already interested in the product and u would just call them up and set up a appointment with them where in turn u would show them the product and see if they wanted to buy and that u would at least be paid 13.25 for that appointment. thats a lie. one they dont have a lead list for you the only ppl you can call as part of their "rules" are HM3's which are homeowners who are married and over 30. and they have to be friends / family and if they recommend ppl to u then u can call them for appointments.......now heres the catch they are hiring 17,18 and 19 year old students. they are not going to know many married homeowners over 30. also if you have an appt with someone who isnt an HM3 you do not get paid for that appointment even if they are interested in buying because your not following the rules. also you must use your own gas to get to the appointments use ur own phone to make the appointments and pay for the items you use at the appointments which cost $147.88. oh btw YOU DO NOT GET PAID TO DO THE TRAINING ITS SELF THOSE FIRST 3 DAYS ARE UNPAID WHICH IS ILLEGAL. also the ppl doing our training one had us there for 6 to 7 hours NO BREAK NOT EVEN 5 MINUTES. IT IS ILLEGAL TO REQUIRE SOMEONE TO COME TO TRAINING AND NOT PAY THEM LET ALONE ITS ILLEGAL TO NOT GIVE A BREAK IF THEY ARE THERE FOR THAT LONG. i was prego at these appointments i have to eat not only that i need some time to stretch my legs but they wouldnt give us a break. so to rap this all up they are hiring these college students cause they dont know any better all they see is a job thats going to pay them big bucks. they dont see the scam behind it. just like credit card companies if you think about it. why do they give students a credit card.....because they will buy without thinking meaning debt its a rip off and skrews you over. and btw these kids have no money which is why they are looking for jobs....so how in the world will they pay for the demo kit? its a rip off you will be spending more on gas and cell bills then actually getting paid. this job is unfair and a scam if you get the letter in the mail. THROW IT AWAY. thats the best advise i can give you. sure some ppl do well at that job...its cause they have ppl who have big bucks. before you get a job make sure to research it. make sure there is not anything about a scam coming up in your search. if so steer clear you will save yourself time and money.

Jane Smith   Omaha

12:47am on Monday, June 15th, 2009 

I seen the ad saying with pay college age students $16.00 per hour, which is very high paying sales job in this are, so I went to see if I could pass the age group which is illegal. The company want this age group because they have alot of work experience lead to think this is a good salary. I was very bored with the fake demonstration of the very expensive knives that most people can't afford the $560 price tag. I also feel that if any company is looking for loyal employes, they would pay for training as all legal companies do. I was invited to start training, but after learning the cost of the product, and no paid training, I knew this company was fake.

Matthew   Berwick,ME

9:28pm on Friday, June 5th, 2009 

Well im a brand new person to vector tomorrow is my last day of training, i have 16 people in my group and required to pay $135 for the set, and the base rate is $16.50 per appt

snugglesowner   maryland

9:14pm on Thursday, May 28th, 2009 

Ok sooooo....
After coming home on summer break from college, I applied for a vector position online. The whole " 17.00 base appt." And "no experience needed" made me feel hopeful. Soo i get a letter saying for me to call to set up an interview. Once there, I feel automatically freaked out. I was surprised to see so many others there considering I thought I had a late one on one 6:45 pm interview. I had been mistaken. Sooo im than interviewed in a group of four by a nice looking guy who seems to be no nonsense. I automatically assume I don't have the job, because everyone else in my group appeared to be more interesting than I. Surprised I had been when we all were asked back for the second part. The second half of the interview lasted for what felt like FOREVER. They went on and on about the company and even did a demonstration. The manager than told us what potential we could earn, " if we were selected for the scarce available position". Soo at this point there are about 30 people there, and I just know there's no way im getting a position amongst all these more qualified people. I didn't even answer a single question during the second part of the interview!. When the man with the beautiful face called me back in to give me the final answer, I was shocked to see that I had infact gotten one of those limited available positions. I was even MORE shocked to see that a week later at training almost every single person from the previous week had also gotten the limited position. Sooo we sat through 7 hours of hearing about success stories and even did role playing. I will say that I did only go to one training session, and non thereafter. The reason? Well for one I didn't have 150 for a deposit on a demo set. But honestly if I did I would have gone back the next day. My beef isn't with cutco, because damn are those some good knives! But rather with vector. The whole pay structure throws me off and I honestly feel that if you don't have family and friends who have a lot of money, than your wasting your time. Nothing sucks more than going to a weekly meeting and having the fact that you didn't sell anything broadcasted to everyone isn't appealing. And does anyone ever wonder how these "promotions" are just given out so fast? If the job was just a normal 17 and hour job that needed for you to go to a customers house and do demonstrations, than even that would be fine. But if you don't get any references from anyone, than you have no appointments, which equals no base 17 pay...soo with that said, vector does give good sales coaching and communication techniques. They also have true success stories. But like I said before. If you don't have family and friends with money, than more than likely you won't be one of those students making those big commissions which are ultimately the only way to become one of those success stories.

Jordan   Greenville

9:11pm on Monday, May 18th, 2009 

Everything everybody said in the other posts is true. Just wished I had read it first before going through the interview. I don't plan on returning to the training part. Don't get me wrong they are great knives but they are going about it all the wrong way. They target college students because they are in need for money and when they see "15 per hour" or "appt" they jump on the idea. And then it turns out they were scammed. And when your scammed you feel like shit... I know I do...

Dale H   Walnut, CA

4:16pm on Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 

This is a great job for the right person. This is direct sales and it takes self motivation, hard work, patience and the ability to take rejection when people don't buy. not everyone can do sales so the ones who fail or give up are qucik to blame the program and not take responsibility for themselves. Not only did I make good money while working there, I gained experience and skills that have since then landed me many high salary jobs that usually require a degree. I never finished school but the skills I learned from Vector have made me a desirable employee in the business world. If you can't handle it, that's okay but it's not the company's fault.

Dave   WA

12:33pm on Thursday, March 19th, 2009 

Okay my turn to have a say.
I worked for Vector Marketing for about 3 months, found there add on Craig s list. I went through there interview process not knowing what to expect. Here is how it went. The interview took a few minutes which made me wonder if not everyone would get the position, and everyone there did. However, not everyone decided to come back the next day. The whole thing takes about 5 days. This includes your training.
They do ask that you give them a deposit for your Demo knife set but they wont cash it unless you decide to run off with there knifes. However, this is a job where you hassle your friends and family to not only demo the knifes for them but to get added names to show others knifes too. and that all would have been fine with me since they pay you 14.25 per appt. However, if you don't sell the knifes then the management team rides you. I was able to make 7 to 8 appt a week with no problem and sold to 1 person out of that and my management team was getting upset with me. So its not a scam but its not an enjoyable job either unless you are a good sales person.
Bottom line, Vector is true to there word but not an enjoyable place to be unless you can sell there product, they do use some deceitful tactics to get you to come in though.
The products are amazing and if I had the money I would love to buy the products myself.

G. Jeremy   Rohnert Park, California

1:50am on Saturday, March 7th, 2009 

The knives seem ok.

I just attended two "training" sessions (6 hour pep talks) which creeped me out heavily. I just decided to stop going tonight after researching the company after being thoroughly sketched out by my boss calling me at 8:30 to ask if I'd called 6 people yet.
Didn't stroke me right.

Icharus   West St. Paul

8:33pm on Wednesday, January 28th, 2009 

I just got my job there on Tuesday, I'm just starting the interview phase. 145 dollar deposit? nice, ****ing nice. I joined this job to get money, FOR I HAVE NONE!
Other than that nonsense, it seems alright. it's 18 dollars for me. the pay system is confusing, is it hourly or by appt?

Tracey smith   chicago, il

11:04pm on Wednesday, January 21st, 2009 

Very bad this company is bad. They lied to me and said I didn't get hired because I was without a car. I thought that was weird so I called the next day after my interview and asked if I needed a car to work for vector I was told no. That's when I knew this job was a scam and a lier. Not to mention the interview took 3 mins.

Sara   Rhode Island

4:36pm on Wednesday, October 8th, 2008 

Vector is not quite a scam. Cutco is a great product. However, the company is deceitful and has NO regard for its independent contractors. There are some who will say that I'm clearly just someone who worked there for a week or two. It's not true...I was a Sales Rep for a year and a District Manager for about 8 months (I wound up homeless).
DO NOT EVEN GO TO A VECTOR INTERVIEW.

J.D.   Florida

3:20am on Wednesday, August 6th, 2008 

I actually know for a FACT that I had to have worked beside the previous poster. Simply because I have heard the moronic "you go girl!" shout-outs the Manager would yell into the phone everytime a woman associate would call.

Basically, everything she said I agree with, plus the major problem I had when the District manager I (we) worked under found it necessary to openly (during the training and meetings) shout out to a "fellow Indian brother" how he knows "he"(being the Indian kid that just started there) is going to be another manager just like himself and how he would be doing so much better than the rest. Apparently because "Indians" are god in the world of high priced kitchen cutlery.

Ironically enough, that same "Indian brother" was promoted to "Key staff" within the first week.

P.S. - They are pretty good knives, I guess... Even if a bit expensive...

A.M.D.J   FL

3:15am on Wednesday, August 6th, 2008 

My Cutco experience was terrible. I sat through a two hour interview where they went through about 15 people in just our ONE interview of the day. Then they proceeded to make us attend a three day training course. Our training class consisted of about thirty to thirty five people which seemed very odd. Not only was that incredibly insufficient it was ridiculous, coaxing us to make calls with cold pizza. If you made enough appointments in an hour you were "rewarded". Finally they sent us off into the "sales" world, prodding us to sell to our "MAC" customers, who of course would be our friends and family. No one else was allowed to be used, and I was scolded for attempting to call anyone who was not a married, middle aged, home owner. Also, extreme sexism was instituted along with the teachings; others have reported that racism was also present in other areas. (ex. if someone "sounded 'black' on the phone they were required to pick an excuse from an appropriate, handed out, mandatory list and hang up".)

Cutco is an extremely wealthy corporation that can do well for highschool children/college students that have A TON of family and are very popular among them. Having little to no family will not let you get far in this company, and no help is provided to any individual, just words of encouragement such as "you go girl!" (of course only to women) and "if you can't bring it, sit down."; Both of which in a condescending tone, as to belittle the seller into wanting to do better just to prove his/her worth.

J.Dupuis   Fitchburg Mass.

2:11pm on Friday, May 9th, 2008 

I got involved with Vector when I bought knives. they are great,30 years later..I decided to try selling in Fla. did ok..not enough experienced mentors was the only drawback, too many young people who wanted to use the job to party. but the product and the customer service from Cutco are excellent. It is a good field for a sales minded person with self-start motivation.

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