Vector Marketing Reviews
Legit or Scam?
Vector Marketing booths are almost as common as vending
machines on college campuses. In
between classes and close to holiday breaks,
business suit clad representatives hand out
flyers offering students the ultimate summer
job starting at $16 an hr
...So why is there
a group of over 7,000 students claiming that Vector Marketing is a Scam? The majority of problems regarding the
Vector Corporation stem from their deceptive
their promotional material does it state
what the actual "job" is going to be,
students are simply given a phone number and
encouraged to call for an interview.
The actual job is commission based direct
sales for Cutco kitchen knives, obviously
not the dream job for college kids, and the
reason for the vague job ads. After
your interview you'll be required to
purchase your own demo knife set at $145,
another topic that doesn't sit well with
students against Vector Marketing.
However, that money acts as a deposit and is
refunded when you end your professional
relationship with the company.
Students also have to attend several days
of unpaid training where they learn how to
conduct in-home presentations for these high
end knives. When you're ready, Vector
Marketing managers will encourage you to
sell to your relatives and friends first as they're a
much more receptive audience.
In the past the negative issues with
Vector Marketing have been addressed in
court, and in several states the company has
been ordered to cease deceptive employee
recruiting practices and false hourly
The plus side to Vector Marketing is that
for talented and ambitious individuals there
are definitely opportunities. The company
promotes heavily from within and all
managers are former sales reps. Also,
if you do work for a fair amount of time you
can use the sales experience to land better
jobs out of college.
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Anonymous Location unknown
1:11am on October 18th, 2013
Vector is not a scam, if you had a bad experience then it could just be a bad office branch. I am 19 years old. I started working for vector last summer and I only worked two weeks because I started late in the summer and had vacations preplanned. You do set your own hours and that is how I only worked two weeks. Vector offers great experience for the future and you CAN do this job and not be a good sales person. I am not a good sales person myself, but I still sold over $6,000 in two weeks and made close to $1,000. The reason is because the product is that good and it practically sales itself. You can try to make that much at McDonald's in two weeks, but HA!! good luck and those of us who keep working for Vector will keep making way more then you because the more we sell, our career totals go up and we continue to make more! Oh and just to mention, if you work for Vector and leave the company and later decide to come back, you will start out making the percent of sales you were making before you left. Your percent made based off career sales never goes down and only increases based off career total sales, meaning there is no quota to meet, to it's max point and stays there forever. If vector was a scam then multiple colleges wouldn't be using Vector's three day training program within the business degree programs and having their students sell Cutco for the real business experience it offers. If you haven't personally been employed by Vector then you have no ground to stand on in this debate so stay out of it because your OPINION is worthless here and you're giving a sour taste to a good fruit for no reason and possibly messing up someone else's experience before they even try it out and succeed. If you know someone who had a bad experience with Vector or just wasn't successful there and now you want to bash it, step back and check yourself. Maybe the reason you or someone you know wasn't successful is because they didn't pursue it hard enough and expected it to just fall in their lap. It comes with GREAT perks and benefits both now and for the future, but at the end of the day, it IS a job and it takes work. You get out of it what you put into it. Vector is legit! It isn't a scam! I worked there last summer and I am taking off right now to attend college, but I have it worked out to start back in May when college lets out for summer. A common amount made for one summer is around $15,000 and that is the revenue brought in that the employee makes. There are many employees that make around that amount in a summer three month period. Stop bashing Vector because it isn't a scam!! The program they have going there is set up to train inexperienced college students so that they have work experience to fall back on and be one up to the competition for a future job. It is in a sense doing the students a great favor by allowing them to get experience and a potential to make a lot of money. My district branch manager paid off his college working just weekends his senior year in college because he did 10 appointments per weekend and made $13,000 one semester and $15,000 the other. He showed us the pay stubs to prove it. As a college student only working weekends he made more then his parents, It was all because of Vector and now he is a branch manager!! Because he sold so much he won a scholarship through Vector both semesters, only one person gets the scholarship per semester, and this is how he was able to pay off his college after one school year of just working weekends. And another thing, scams don't actually pay you money scams are fake. At Vector, you make a paycheck based off your sales or number of appointments . You get paid and the customers get exactly what they order because it's not a scam and Cutco stands behind their product forever, not just lifetime, forever, like when Jesus comes back it will still be guaranteed for those left behind,and they have for a while now. If Vector was a scam it wouldn't have lasted this long and would have been shut down. Also the BBB doesn't allow scams to join up with them. OH and one other thing, My sample kit was free, I only had to pay for it if I stopped selling and didn't turn it in, or if I just decided to buy it. You people are ridiculous in your debate, you sound like ignorant children who just want to be heard so they speak with no insight into what they are speaking about. Vector is Legit and it is a Very successful business and it's employees have the chance to be successful as well and gain life valuable skills for working and relating to people. Please stop blabbering just to blabber and realize the truth behind Vector Marketing and Cutco's partnership. Vector Marketing is a great experience for any college student and I am going to keep encouraging people I come in contact with to check it out. Why? BECAUSE IT ISN'T A SCAM! That's why. Now I am done with this foolish debate, I know the truth and if you choose not to except is then in the end that's on you.
Korn Fan ;) California
9:39pm on July 24th, 2013
I'm a 19 year old that isn't in college. I don't have a family. I have nothing. I came to the interview after somebody I didn't know recommended me. I showed up in beaten to hell "good" clothes, and I took the initiative to explain to the person conducting the interview why I appeared as I did. The person was far too friendly and allowed me to ramble on about my dreadful past to the point where I was almost in tears, and then I left the office portion and waited for the "interview."
During the "interview" I pulled out the marketing scheme paper I found. I'm a resourceful person. I asked about how the hell I could possibly be making... not $13, as I saw in the above comments, but $16.85 an hour here in Yuba City. He lied to my face that I would be "coordinating appointments" and NOT selling door to door when I specifically asked.
No less than 30 minutes later, I got a phone call saying I was "hired." Now, why the hell would they hire somebody who's so paranoid that he blatantly asks how they're not a scam? How the hell is a homeless, beat to hell teenager a candidate for them? He had the gall to tell me that I WOULD BE PAID for going to training, covering my gas costs. He told me that there's a limited number of positions open with a lot of people applying, but I still got in... showing up looking like I had just been jumped and beat to hell.
I did some research at a friend's house and used their wifi to pull it off. I stumbled on the Vector reviews describing what I had just been through. Lo and behold, I met my mother for the first time in months in between the period of "getting hired" and "training" and I mentioned Vector when I sat and talked to her. She told me the EXACT SAME story that I had just been through. These people knew somebody like me couldn't cover my expenses to work there. They knew I didn't have family or friends to sell to. They saw me, and they thought, "here's an easy person to scam and put some more money in our pockets."
I'll mention one more thing. Before the "written test" the manager gave me, I looked at his laptop. He had spotify running and was playing Shinedown. I told him how much of a metal fan I am, and he sat and discussed different bands and concerts with me for 15 minutes minimum. These people make you feel special. They lie to you. They make you feel like you have a chance, then they show their true colors and bear their fangs. Best I can say is DO NOT get locked into a contract with them.
1:31pm on July 9th, 2013
One of my two kids has recently started working for Vector selling Cutco. Even though Vector training seems to involve a good deal of brainwashing, as some have pointed out, it also infuses a degree of optimism, willingness to work, belief in one self and teaches selling strategies. All of which are good things to learn. On the down side, it is an old fashioned sales job that requires a lot of dedication, boldness, and a personality that most of us do not have. They do not pay for training, transportation, or for the time you are trying to get appointments, which in practice impacts your hourly wage: for instance, if you have two appointments on a given day, one hour each, including transportation time, and spend a couple of hours, let’s say four hours, calling people, then your hourly wage is going to be about five dollars for six hours of work, in case you do not sell. Subtract transportation from this (tear and wear of the car, gasoline, insurance etc) and you will see that it is not impressive pay to start with. You are expected to go to meetings, which you have to pay to attend, unless you have sold a certain “quota”. If you sell, you can go for “free”, meaning, they don’t charge you to attend.
That all being said, both my sons have extensively applied for minimum wage jobs for the summer and have not even gotten a single call back. These are desperate times, particularly if you live in bankrupt California, where college graduates and experienced workers will line up in front of McDonnalds for a job. Vector will, at least, will give your kid a chance.
Now, for parents out there considering how to advise their children on whether taking a sales job with Vector for the summer, keep in mind that you will be subsidizing it, at least in the beginning, and that it will pay off in the long run only if your kid is cut to be a sales person and is highly motivated. You may end up with a few great knives also, but expensive ones. Your support also implies that you will annoy friends and relatives, asking them to listen to your kid for an hour, while he/she tries to sell them a product they do not necessarily need, or want. But your child will learn way more in a summer by doing this than by sitting at the computer desk browsing facebook or playing video games. And there is a slight chance that this will turn into a career or a way to help with college expenses if you have given birth to a natural.
And the knives are great.
Michelle Charlotte, NC
2:34pm on June 29th, 2013
I agree with almost everything I've read so far. M daughter has been "working" for this company for about 1 1/2 weeks now. I knew it sounded "fishy" from the start but I encouraged her to go because I figured at least she could take away some skills she could use at her next job. First off, the kit fee gimmick must depend on where you live. In the beginning they told her the kit would not cost her anything but she just received an email saying that since she is not selling as much as she should be she is going to have to pay $84 for the kit which they are going to take out of her first paycheck. Well, she only has a couple of sales so that pretty much her whole paycheck and then some. This is the "trick" they use to deny paying these honest but unsuspecting young people.
I totally agree with the person who says it is a scam but at the same time it's not illegal, but maybe a little unethical. They know these kids are not all going to be successful and that's how they make they're money by not paying the ones (which is the majority) that are not making a lot of sales. There is no way, unless you come from an upper-middle class family whose parents have access to a lot of other upper-middle class/wealthy families you are not going to be successful at this job PERIOD!!!! But as someone else pointed out they already know that. What they are hoping is that you come in sell a few sets buy their kit get discouraged and quit. Think how much money they are putting in their pockets if 15 of the 20 people do that in every class.
MY ADVICE--Don't waste your time, you will make more money working at a McDonald's, at least that way you are guaranteed your pay if you work the hours.
unknown niga higa
4:41pm on June 19th, 2013
it 13 bucks an hour how can you not give it 5 stars
Nou St. Paul
5:34am on June 11th, 2013
I got into the office, it was very unprofessional. Even the "managers" look unprofessional. I knew from the time I walked in there it looked suspicious. But I decided to see how it will go. I did stay for the whole thing though, and in the end they gave the group a paper to write what we learned from the presentation. I knew it was a scam and it was weird that it was that easy! I didn't write anything on it and still got hired!!!! But I told her I didn't want to do it and she still told me I am hired. I just said "ok" and left. I won't go into training because easy money is too good to be true.
11:25pm on May 14th, 2013
I wouldnt say vector marketng is a scam but it is misleading and just wrong. They target young college students knowing they need summer jobs so they are going to take the job. When setting up your interview they lie saying how spots are limited but also saying their business grows everyday. They make you feel special when they hire you when in reality almost everyone is hired. How can you say im perfect for this job if you dont even know me. But the way they teach you to sell their product is just wrong.They basically want you to pressure your customer into buying cutco. The managers are always calling you to see if you sold anything and telling you to bother your family and friends. I think the company is manipulative and just shady.
Tammi Greensboro, NY
12:49pm on May 9th, 2013
Really deceptive and misleading. Led you to believe it was a customer service/reception job paying 13.50 an hour. NOT that at all. Selling knives door to door.They want you to supply the contacts and make your appointments. DECEPTIVE
6:23pm on May 8th, 2013
Vector Marketing Is A SCAM ! ,
One morning at school I was surfing the web looking for a job, I then came up to vector marketing ! I applied &&' within a hour the receptionist was calling , telling me how they pay 15$ an hour &&' i said " how would the schedule work , if im in school ." She then replied &&' said " we always work with your schedule ." I said okay cool , So i then agreed to schedule ab interview for that afternoon at 4:00pm . When I got there I saw how beautiful the office was , so i was really thinking that it would be a good job ! So when i got to the back with the manager , he started telling me that , i would only get payed if I sold some cutco products . And told me that i would have to pay 145.00 for a kit ! I told that man to kiss my A#* &&' Walker AWAY Before I Would Have KNOCKED HIS A#* OUT HIS SEAT !
Lauren Location unknown
2:11pm on April 30th, 2013
I started about a week ago at Vector at their new office here. WOW, it was NOT what I expected!!
Nice office sure, and the boss was nice enough to hire me. But at the beginning there went from a few receptionists he was hiring to me and one other girl..weird right?
So they taught me about the script the receptionists read, and I came to find out what I was reading was all lies! It was just to get the people in for the interviews! How terrible! You're a desperate college kid looking for a job, and then you're excited because you get accepted..then you realized that nothing you thought was true.
He had the nerve to tell me not to lie to applicants because this one girl stormed out at the interview. It was on the script!!!!
Anyway..if Cutco wants to sell their precious knives, they really need to step up their game. Be up front and honest about your position, and then see if they're still interested.
Stas Vancouver, BC
8:19pm on April 27th, 2013
"It is a scam and it isn't."
That's, probably, the right opinion about Vector. Really. Vector has some good things in it, but there are some major disadvantages. The most I don't like is that managers there are like fairytellers. And it starts from the interview. "Do you have time, our presentation will be for about 20 minutes" and it freaking runs for 1 hour. I was like "How come did you tell it will be for 20 min?!".
They give you a schedule for training. On first 2 days, you suddenly get to know Vector time - oops, you have to come 15 minutes earlier. In fact, a manager asks you to come 30 minutes earlier on the 3rd day, at 9:30 am. Nota big deal, but still.
I am an international student in Vancouver, BC. It was intended to be my first job. When it comes to a contract, I say "I am afraid to sign it, I have to take a contract home, study that, and consult with my father before". Any good company will 1) have nothing against it; 2) moreover, it will appreciate that person because of being savvy and thinking before doing something. However, a manager started telling me, 18 year old, that "it's all written here, just read and sign". After that, when I said no one more, he asked me to leave the training, cause it would "waste time". Actually a contract was what bothered me the most. They say "We see you don't trust us". OH MY GOD, WHY DO I HAVE TO? AFTER READING SUCH COMMENTS???
I said to myself "everything is pretty clear here". Also, paying $110 for a kit - WTF??
Sales reps pay for trip expenses... So it's your expenses.
Job ad doesn't state what you are going to be doing.
Now, how many appointments can you really schedule for a day? It depends where to go, of course. And yes, do you think every single person would like to have a stranger at their house DURING WORK WEEK? Do you think a husband will even be at home? It's not a thing which takes 5 minutes, a presentation can go for about an hour or even more!!! It's a fair amount of time spent on something you don't even know!
However, their knives are good. They are really good. Sharp and so on. Cool techniques. BUT think about it. I haven't sold them, and I don't believe smb ever buys a set of those. Yes, buying shears or piller or etc. might be a great deal, but nothing more. I just couldn't believe they make 200 million in sales every year, it is just too good to be true. Now, if you spend $1000 just on your knives - how much will your house expenses be?? And, let's be honest, even usual knives are OK for many people. It's not a big deal for most people. They will say "I am OK with what I have now, even though it's not so cool, why do I have to spend few hundred dollars on your stuff, I better buy more products and save my time cooking something for kids".
Still, if people are looking for gifts, knives and accessories might be a really great deal.
I don't say it's a complete scam, but there is pretty much unclear stuff at Vector. I think that some people really succeed there, but their percentage is under ~20 of all reps. And yes, they actually accept almost everybody from interviews into their job. Why? Cause the turnover is extremely high!!!
Naiive College Student
8:54am on April 24th, 2013
I was up at 2:00am looking up jobs for students yesterday morning and came across vector's application. I didn't even know what exactly I was applying for, but it seemed fairly easy and I though I would give it a try. Lo and behold, a receptionist called me the next day and asked me to come in for an interview. I was like, "whoa, that was easy!" (to myself). Over the phone, the guy told me the pay was $15/hr, no experience necessary. He got me with the whole "this is a great opportunity for college students" spiel and I immediately agreed to an interview. Funny enough, I asked where the nearest location was, which happened to be literally right around the corner from my house. I then thought to myself, "how come I've never seen or heard of this place". I looked it up on Google maps and everything, but nothing popped up. That was my first suspicion. He also told me to look at their website, and while searching for that in Google I also came across many links about Vector being a scam, or a misleading business scheme at it's best. I had to do my research. I feel humiliated about being tricked into thinking I was getting an amazing job, even though I told no one of it. And I've decided to withdraw the interview. "Ain't nobody got time fo dat!"
Side note: What professional marketing corporation interviews prospective employees at 6:30pm?
12:27pm on April 16th, 2013
its not a scam and you do not have to pay for you kit they give it to you for free! i work there for about 2 months and i love it the north houston vector is not a scam!!!
Lateira Baker Minnesota
1:18pm on April 9th, 2013
I just had an interview yesterday and now you guys have scared me. They do have high quality products and good presentation. I did feel like it was a little weird how fast I had got a call and interview.The building I went in didn't anyone else in it besides the lady who was hiring.I got the position very quickly. I was excited until reading everyone's comments. I don't know if I should go to the training or not.
5:00pm on March 27th, 2013
It's a damn scam.. C'mon the only ones that believe it's real money are the ones that work there.. My friend Ricardo is the manager at the fort Lauderdale office and he told me personally that it's a scam and only a fool would fall for it that's why they target young desperate people.. Sell like a boss my anus.. Lol believe the hype of you want too.. Stay in school or get a real job hell do both but I know first hand this is a scam..
12:47pm on March 25th, 2013
First of all there is falls advertisement from the start. It is short from being a full fledged scam. This job is a salesman job essentially going door to door. You don't get paid hourly as the advertise. Second of all if your into salesmanship you get little to no experience here, you only learn about selling knifes, and how great they are. I would suggest you finish college and become a sales person at a professional level. In short don't waste your time.
vectorBSdetecter Location unknown
1:39am on March 6th, 2013
what a lousy bunch. so I went to the interview just to audit the company that was advertising such a high paying job on craiglist but wouldn't even mention their name till I got there. Then after leaving the interview which they actually hired me. (this in and of itself was laughable-- I'm frightening and hardly employable and the secretary tells me to come back for 3 days of unpaid training and to bring my own food. Well I hope you guys pack a lunch and lawyer up cause the only thing that's showing up on your doorstep is going to be a summons.
Frank San Fran
4:09pm on March 4th, 2013
First of all, I sold 17K my first week, Practice or not, so ya'll can't tell me nothing. This job is for people that can sell like a boss, if you don't have the skill, then go stay working at Mcdonald's or something. There is a pro/con thing to this, but it's the way the world works. If you are a close minded, non-ambitious salesman, then you belong in the kitchen. BTW, You don't HAVE to infiltrate your friends/family. Find your own roots/leads, It's not that hard if you are a good salesman. And about half of this stuff is over exaggerated, if you haven't experienced this 'SCAM' then don't give your input please, get BENT.
Anonymous Location unknown
5:34pm on February 21st, 2013
hbc has a 40% off sale from time to time on their henikels knives, and they are made in japan. Or germany. :) Same quality as the cutco knives and cheaper too! Retailers have sales from time to time.
1:52pm on February 19th, 2013
It is not really a scam, but it is a two faced job. You don't know how they actually make their money. I advise you not to go and become a sales rep for this job. Here is why. This is long, but it is worth the read.
1. You do the interview, they make it sound like there is not much room to enter, but they end up accepting almost a whole group of people anyways. It is all a mind game. Then once you are accepted, theres an introduction with a video, and it goes for a long time. For free. Everything was over 2 hours, and that is just for the interview part.
2. They make you come in the next day, they give you a binder explaining everything, and a bunch of things you should memorize. Your job is to sell knives. All this process is like 5 hours long. For free.
3. They make you come in the third day. This is the day they give you your knife kit that you will demonstrate to people you are selling it. But it is also another 5 hour day of explanations and orientations. So you spent the last three days, over 10 hours, for free. Any other job, the orientation is paid for.
What do you do:
You sell knives. What they do is, on the 3 days of orientations, they set you up, and they make you practice and make appointments and sell knives to people you know. All for practice. Thats where they make their money. They do not make their money from people that are trying to sell knives AFTER orientation. They make their money when they gather a group of like 20 people, and on the "practice", they make you set up appointments to a family member like your parents, and they tell you to sell it to people that will buy it for sure, so it is a better practice for you. So even if you do it all, sell it to your family, but you quit right after, it doesn't matter, because they had at least 19 other people selling to their parents for sure on their practice as well. Almost everyone quits, then they gather up another round of 20 people or so, and do the same thing, everyone quits again, but at least they sold "for sure" to their family. And there are over 10,000 or even more places in America doing the same thing, they are gathering up their 20 people. So that's 10,000 places and each place has about 20 people that will be selling knives to their family for practice. So thats how they make money, because even if everyone quits, that weekend, about 20 people X 10,000 places, sold at least $50 worth of knives, do the math. Maybe 1 or 2 people try to stay but it is just pathetic. Another thing is that you get paid by appointment, not by hour. You also get commission, but it is stupid. All the driving is on you, the mileage and the gas, is on you. This is not a company where you sell house by house, you are only selling to people that everyone knows. So you call and make an appointment. The numbers on the list are gonna be people that you know and people that other people are trying to sell knows. So that's another thing they make you do, they make you make a huge list of everyone you know, even if its someone you hardly speak to, and get their number. They will be part of the list that everyone will be calling to try to make appointments. Some people do stay, and do sell here and there, but it is not a good job because of driving, gas, mileage, getting paid only by appointments. Someone would have to be really good at selling knives or know a bunch of people that are willing to buy a $50+ dollar kitchen knife. Yes, thats about the price of 1 knife. They are really good knives, but id rather replace my knife 3 times a year, and it will still be cheaper. MUCH cheaper. Ever see a company that makes money on orientation, and even if everyone quits they are still making loads, because they sold to their parents who bought from their kids to help them practice?
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