Edna Brown Pittsburgh PA | 8:56am on December 13th, 2011  |
I was desperately trying to get a small organic farming business started with the help of Kish & company. I went to 4 different webinars to listen.
(One of the reasons I went to 4 was Tom SPAMS the HECK out of his list once you opt in)
During the webinars I noticed that very few questions were actually answered, but I thought that it was just Tom Kish's style. Mostly I trusted him and thought the info was in the membership area.
I took advantage of his membership, and it soon took advantage of ME!
First thing was once you order it has a note on the confirmation email to make sure that if you do not get access to the materials to contact/call him and request it.
I found that strange because he had no problems taking my payment. I thought that it might be just a proactive customer service situation to be sure that we all got our materials.
A week passed but I assumed it was an oversight and was so confident in this working out I didn't worry.
I now know it is indicative of poor customer service.
Anyway after 2 weeks of no accessibility I had to call. The lady that answered the phone was very rude. I chocked that up to maybe she was having a bad day. Once I got the materials (now 2 weeks into my first month) It was very disappointing.
In Toms webinars he talks about these funding sources being special and exclusive. I found them to be Bank of America, Wells fargo..ect...the same companies that anyone can find and apply to.
There is also a guarantee on the site for a full refund. I wrote prior to the 30 days to request a refund I was not happy with loosing 2 weeks, and even less thrilled with the materials as they were simply common sense, no break through or secret methods.
I was admonished, for asking for a refund, and told that it did not apply to the membership! ( Even though it does not say that on the site.
Anyway I figured "well they got me" but I will not get any more charges. WRONG they charged me again, once they have your credit card number WATCH OUT!! I wrote them again to cancel, and they offered me half off of their most expensive product.( I declined the offer)
Now they simply ignore my request for refund.
This is a terrible company to work with,they have deceptive business practices and will do anything to scam you.
AVOID at ALL COST! |
Anonymous Location unknown | 8:43pm on October 20th, 2011 |
Wow well, I've already been scammed once!I do not need it again!thanks!
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Rod Florida | 2:46pm on August 23rd, 2011  |
This program does not work for everyone, even if you have good credit, and Mr. Kish will not refund any fees. |
Anonymous NJ | 4:51pm on July 26th, 2011  |
Thomas Kish is a scam! Very rude and doesn't have any professionalism whatsoever. You can never get a straight answer, they just send you to a computer program to "talk" and then they don't get back to you on time. They just like to scam people, the program is very vague and just touches the surface of things. The coaches don't seem to know much, seems they are just reading a script. He should be looked into by feds and shut down. It is based on personal guarantees which business credit is not supposed to be. |
Anonymous Location unknown | 9:46am on April 15th, 2011  |
he's a liar don't trust him... |
robert ny | 10:01pm on March 28th, 2011  |
kenny is tom's office manager and he was beyond rude. would not give me my money back on something he should have and when i asked him about a guarantee on one of his other products he would not explain it to me. he just kept saying refer to the website. so i called tom kish and and was just like kenny. very rude and unwilling to listen to one word. tom kish is a scam artist...if you know what's good for you stay away and spend it on something worth while. |
moneybag tennessee | 11:27pm on February 22nd, 2011  |
I do research before I buy anything, especially when the price is in the thousands. i talked with
kish on facebook. I told him I was ready to sign up for his most expensive program. He had someone call me. I found out thomas kish is just an affiliate. He is working for a company in vegas. They told me he is one of there best affiliates. When you attempt to buy something from someone and they immediately drop the price, thats an eye opener for me. can't go to walmart and negotiate any price. I would stay clear of thomas kish |
Rick Texas | 9:54pm on January 18th, 2011  |
I like to have several existing members that have gone completely through the program with good credit and those with bad credits--give us a true evaluation of the program. |
Gary Location unknown | 1:18pm on December 19th, 2010  |
Let's face the fact people if your already thinking about returning materials you buy before you even buy it then don't bother maybe learning a business is not for you. I have Tom's Ultimate Real Estate Investors Guide and used the information to buy properties and make money along with the Biz lines of credit it works, businesses have using it for decades. It takes a lot of work sometimes to reach your goals nothing is that easy. Read the information and apply it and stop whining about customer service and phone drama. Just do the work required to get it done, there's no magic pill but good info you can use.
Hope this helps. |
greg wynn knoxville tennessee | 11:53am on December 19th, 2010  |
I talked to Bj on the phone once and when I told him I just wanted to find out some info on this program and that I wasn't making a purchase at this time, he hung up on me. I spoke with thomas kish on one of his webinars. He is kind of rude but convincing. I feel this is a big risk and have considered time and time again about purchasing. i would be highly upset if I spend my hard earned savings and don't get anything in return. |
Jonathan Florida | 11:19am on November 18th, 2010  |
I too have been scammed by Thomas Kish. I wish the Fed's would do something to keep him from scamming other people. |
MAN in the Know II Las Vegas | 8:50pm on October 2nd, 2010  |
Lets say that I tell you that I got some new client 6 million dollars in 3 days with no personal guarantee. Is that possible?
Actually it is, if the person who wants the six million happens to also own 6 Mcdonalds restaurants which of course you cant get a Mcdonalds franchise without posting up a million dollar cash bond per location. So we secure the 6 million against the 6 bonds. So Kish could say that he one time got a new client 6 million in three days with no guarantee. He's not lying but, its certainly not the rule, but the exception. That's what Kish does, he states the exception, in some cases, knowing full well that once clients get into the program they see the progress and before they know it, they don't care that the time frame was longer than expected.
As a man in the know, that it what he does, whether on purpose or not. That being said, in the end you will get credit. |
Simone Denver | 1:47am on September 12th, 2010 |
Man in the Know--The problem is Kish specifically says his program works for people to get these lines in 2 to 4 months, EVEN if they have poor personal credit and no business even established yet (so even once established on paper obviously no revenue). He even states he teaches how to do this without requiring a creditworthy partner. Extremely unlikely. |
Man in The know Las Vegas | 10:39pm on September 10th, 2010  |
You complainers are crazy, I work for a competitor, Kish's credit program is excellent. You dreamers just think that with horrible credit, no revenue, no business, that banks are gonna stand in line to fund you. Why would they. The only thing that Kish is wrong about is time frame. Quit whining about not getting your 250k in 2-3 months, do the damn work, complete the program, then complain. |
Jeff Minnesota | 10:48am on August 31st, 2010  |
This is the first time I have EVER submitted feedback on a site, but I need to let all of you know that Tom Kish is a SCAM!!! His buddy BJ is helping him sell the done for you coaching that they outsource to the nevada corp., which they do not tell you that they do. Tom and his buddy charged $3170 and guaranteed you would not be charged a penny more and you would receive at least $50K in credit within 60 days. Within the first day NCH contacted me they attempted to "up sell" me on holding companies, other LLC's etc totaling $13,000+. I contacted BJ 2 days after I purchased and he acted surprised saying it was up to Tom to refund my money. They have been running from me ever since. Refusing to respond to my emails and phone calls. |
Monica California | 7:42pm on August 4th, 2010  |
Lol. These post from skeptics are typical. I was very skeptical too. However, I do know someone who did the program and got $180k from Thomas Kish's program. He tried the do it yourself and naaa it really didn't give you the whole scenario on how to fill out the apps. So then he purchased the $1300 one in late 2009. Now he has checks from banks that total $185k. It works but you of course have to pay your trade bills on time and do what the coach tells you to do or else yeah it won't work. I guess he helps some ppl but I can't spk for those it didn't work for. I will say he's obviously not a scammer like some programs. Good luck. |
Tom Alabama | 12:03pm on May 14th, 2010 |
This program sounds fake to me, just by reading what you people have to say about this Thomas Kish. I found out about this man on twitter, and decided to do some research on him. Sounds to me like he is just another "DON LAPRE" 1-900 late night infomercial that doesn't work. I'm glad I investigated things before I made a mistake, and purchased this program. But still my search goes on to find loans to start a small ecommerce business. If anyone knows more than me about finding financing for this kind of business, post tweet the info to my twitter martianman71 thanks |
Twistedone Las Vegas | 3:33pm on April 22nd, 2010 |
Not all Credit Building Companies are Created Equal, get the facts and myths of Building Your Business Credit, and this is a reminder that NO Matter what at some point the Banks and Lenders are going to want a PG and Look at your Personal Credit History... |
BlondeDiet SoCal | 11:05pm on April 14th, 2010  |
I have had such a bad experience with these people. They are scammers of such despicable character I would never advocate dealing with them. They exhibit a supreme lack of character and integrity and are only interested in your initial expenditure (usually substantial) and show no integrity whatsoever once you purchase their program.
DON'T DO IT!! I'm taking them to court ASAP. |
Jennifer Lewis CA | 2:29pm on March 30th, 2010  |
Beware; they are a scam, will charge your card for free trial and will do ANYTHING and LIE to not accept your return |