Quixtar Reviews

Paul   DC Metro

8:16pm on Tuesday, July 29th, 2008 

Best opportunity out there... Get the real facts... Truly a first class Supplier (Quixtar, North America & Amway, Global). Great track record, been around for just under 50 years, 7 billion dollar company worldwide yearly. They own the Orlando, Magic..Hatteras Yachts... And either Steve Van Andel or Doug DeVos was the Chairman for the NATIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. Remember this its dependent on you, its not get rich quick with money shooting out the floppy drive. You work it, you'll make it! Just like anything... It's a vehicle that can get you where you want to go. Oh and if you still have doubts call the corporation or check the BBB. Anyhow, if you decide to listen to critics you get what they got, most likely not much in terms of all around prosperity!

Melissa   South Jersey

8:03pm on Monday, July 28th, 2008 

WOW! There are tons of comments here. I can only hope that someone manages to make it far enough to read mine.

I've tried Mary Kay, Primerica, Surveys online, and a few businesses of my own. (real business, where I either stocked candy, or made arts and crafts to sell, etc.)

I was not disillusioned about Quixtar when I joined the business, and the people who introduced me to the business allowed me to do adequate research AND try some of the products BEFORE I decided to go IBO.

Here's how Quixtar works:

You will have a very difficult time making this business work, if it's ONLY based on IBO purchaes. Retail must be involved as well, and your sponsors should be helping if not virtually doing the work for you, so you can learn from them as you grow.

You make money by VOLUME not Company Level. The two are not the same. Of course, large volumes will get you some notches in your belt, but there are some people making more $ at one level than many folks at 1 or two higher levels. It's all about how you build your business. Make NO mistake, it's merit based!

Technology can't replace people. Quixtar is not a wham-bam-thank-you-mam kind of business. If you want to build something that will last, with people that will last, the rules of conduct are actually more blessing than curse. But if you want a simpler exchange of time for money (legally of course :) then try some of the other alternatives online. (Like this one!) Just don't expect Quixtar to conform to other business models. Remember, Quixtar had to learn the hard way what loose marketing does today. In fact, the legitimacy of this business lies at the very heart of this entire debate, right? Your choice. Choose wisely what's best for you.

AND ONE MORE THING! Making personal insults may be good for entertainment purposes, but it doesn't add real value to the conversation. And it makes this opportunity look all the more like fluff. As if there's nothing tangible to say. (and yes, I'm sure I'll probrably catch a few for jumping on this little soap-box of mine. That's O.K. America's still a free country.) All I'm trying to say, is there's a lot of folks who are really trying to figure out the truth. They shouldn't have to wade through mud to get to it.

Cookie   ringgold

10:27pm on Thursday, July 24th, 2008 

Its funny i ran across this email. this is the first time i let myself be exposed to the negativity. Me and my boyfriend went so hard met at starbucks went to meeting gave numbers went to team call try to convince ppl its a good thing even though you dont really know anything about it... thats what we have been doing, we kept getting recognize for our success but the success was very little, i mean nothing to deserve claps from audience, give me a break. my boyfiend and i told our upline, mentor life coach rich dad yada yada yada we needed to rethink our game plan we havent been to a meeting or any of the other time consuming things... these people are good and have a heart, and are pretty good sells people, if it works for them they should do it.... maybe those who ran out of options, looking for a way out it helps people focus on a goal and what it is exactly you wanted to achieve the bottom line this business or no business you vision you will attract it i do not need this to get to where i want to go, i dont have time and dont want to tell a complete stranger upline my whole life story or answer to him or whatever ... just be careful out there world dont make yourself blind to the negative because sometime the negative is truth..... so its okay you read this do what you got to do to get by make a vision board change your thought process the universe doesnt know any different than to give us what we want... you just have to ask for it.... ask, believe, receive. Thank you wish you all a great day. Wish you luck. ENjOy LiFe! :)

david   nyc

6:14pm on Thursday, July 24th, 2008 

First of all you should hate your job does it allow you to live freely I think not. Why do I need to put out the energy drinks in the store when all I do is give them to my friends and they buy them and matter of fact actually like them. By the way it is residual income which I have received from them for the last 6 years and why I am going into sapphire qualifcation very soon. Yes it took me a while but ive got to the point where I said good riddens to my job and quite frankly they never really cared about me. The mindset is when you work in a job you are doomed to go nowhere maybe a bit comfortable but never can get rich if this is your destiny so be it. Some of us have big dreams which I expect to be dimaond in another 1-2 years hopefully and never listen to negative people which there are so many in this world and why 98% of the people in the world are so poor and why only 2% are rich. I am so glad I dont have to work in a job anymore and have the residual income. Yes its true if they stop buying but why would they stop while I give them IBO discounts makes no sense and do you think I worry if some drop out I have so many customers and IBO's it dont really matter anymore. I laugh when they say its a cult listen to their words it has meaning the only cult is in your job where you are a slave to the paycheck every week and living barely getting by paying the rent and being forced to get up on their time. I am so happy for Quixtar thank God there truly is a God oh yeah financial freedom and no negative person can stop me from going diamond. Somebody said this business is screwed up we have been around for 50 years and its funny how people knock businesses that are so successful. Oh by the way we have more millionaires now then microsoft not bad and a credit rating in which we owe no debt to no one can your job employer say that think not keep working until your what 70 now new study 405000 layoffs in a job funny how people still think working for a job or someone is good giving you the little measly raises they give you give me a break

Joel   Calgary

12:50am on Thursday, July 24th, 2008 

Quixtar is truly a wolf in sheep's clothing, I was referred to it a few years ago by a friend. As soon as I was shown the "plan" in an Arby's restaurant, I was STOKED!! But after attending a few "Cult like" meetings at strangers houses, I was a little skeptical. I harassed my friends and family to get them to join and nothing. It even got to the point were I was driving around with my sponsor and he tried to "recruit" grocery store employees into his trap. After sleeping on it for a few days, I contacted my sponsor, and asked him if I could set up a display and sell the energy drink called XS at a kiosk in the local mall, he said no, it's against company policy. That's what really got me thinking, why would they be so offended if I advertised there product if I paid for it? This company is all messed up, WOM only goes so far. And like the article says, you only make money if EVERYONE decides to buy everything from them, for life, so RESIDUAL income is a "false" word that they use in there business plan all to much, because if your entire down line decides to not buy a thing, then you make NOTHING. PLEASE approach this "opportunity" with an open mind, and don't let them give you the mindset to hate your job.

bill   maryland

2:58pm on Sunday, July 20th, 2008 

i only have so little to say and one of them is too each his own do what you enjoy in life dont listen to anyone especially a broke friend that barely pays the bills. I have met some interesting friends that would do anything for me even a person who i didnt sponsor who did my garage door for nothing thats the kind of people you have in this business its people helping people. I felt that who cares if my upline made more then me as long as i make it does it really matter i couldnt care less if the person who sponsored me made a million as long as i reach my goal.

I have been doing this for 8 years now and finally made it to emerald which brings me about 200k a year yes i worked hard yes it took so long but hey i made it and this is part time. I was able to quit my job realizing every day how miserable i was working for a boss and always worried that id get laid off. I am so happy that this business idea came to me 8 years ago and for people that didnt make it well ask yourself maybe it truly wasnt for you as for myself i didnt realize it would take this long but im here and only 32 not bad good luck in whatever you do in life

jake   nj

4:43am on Saturday, July 19th, 2008 

whatever keep working in your pyramid job and the broke friends you associate with its the drones that keep working in a corporate job with a risk of losing their job everyone will bash anything that does well people are afraid for what reason i have no clue the cost is so minimal its a joke i cant wait to go ruby and once again tell my friend how does it feel to work in a job paycheck to paycheck difference is i can retire at 45 which i am well on my way he maybe if he is real lucky 65 what a joke working for an employer not having your own business ill be waving to my friend everytime i see him.

I have a friend who is a police officer in ny he told me he hates his job being ordered to go to overtime details making no money whatsoever so i told him lets try to make this business work today instead of making 75k after 5 years at top pay he now makes residual income of 3k a month part time he still works in his job but thanks me everyday knowing full well in another 3 maybe 4 years he can walk away from his job which he hates so much

I dont tell anyone what to do its up to them to choose the path they want to pursue. I understand this is not for everyone but for the people who like this business and do well i can only say one thing i am on my way to financial freedom and no blog or negative person will stop me so continue your quest to stay broke

pensions are shrinking economy is going way down how long before your job goes down and sinks and then you join the unemployment line. I am so happy i dont ever have to work for anyone and i now have my own business which i am so proud of and thank God i didnt listen to my so called broke friend by the way is your broke friend really the person you want to listen to lol i think not but if you do i feel sorry for you

The business works i have done well so has many of the people i sponsored not everyone but a handful and all i neede now is 4 more legs and well i wont have to worry about anything

Andrew   Chicago

1:23pm on Friday, July 18th, 2008 

OK these Quixtar drones really need to stop bringing up the big name stores. Right now I can go and sign up for Home Depot and Barnes and Noble's affiliate programs and make money by reselling their products with out any uplines or motivational tapes. The ability to sell these products and "work" with these companies has no bearing on whether Quixtar is a good legitimate business opportunity.

Ralph   li

12:11pm on Friday, July 18th, 2008 

funny we have been around for 50 years and still going strong so to the people who actually think we are going down dream on mr broke the only thing going down is your job i wont be seeing you on the unemployment line getting an unemployment check each week or better yet living in the streets. Most people that bash something wish they can do well but their minds are closed in life thats why the rich get richer and the broke get more broke stay poor oh how is that 50k or 100k jobn working 40 hours a week lol i make in 16 hours what some make in 2 months its called the more you read the more you learn the smarter you get. I get paid to buy a book at barnes and noble do you i think not. I get paid to buy my 60 inch tv just recently i got paid for that would you lol answer is no i got paid to buy my sneakers did you oh gas prices on the roof by the way live free financial freedom all the way Quixtar/Alticor Rules my friend just went diamond so happy he did it and didnt listen to his broke friend what does a broke friend no absolutely nothing or else they would be so successful. This business ruless non believers keep working oh how many vacations do you get in your job 2-3 weeks maybe 4 i can take as many as i like i love that concept me and my wife have done so well and we both didnt listen to no one my upline its funny doesnt make more then me thats why it is a joke why they say its a pyramid the more ambitous you are wake up the more money you make guess its hard to understand with someone who is retarded or has a feable mind thats closed. Do you really think youll get anywhere in your job ? lol answer nowhere

joshua   ny

12:00pm on Friday, July 18th, 2008 

wake up people we work with microsoft, dell, circuit city, barnes and noble, office depot, nascar, if we were so bad and illegal would all these companies work with us. Its funny how people listen to their broke friends who actually think they know something like go get a job i guess youll be on the unemployment line right next to your other broke friend its hilarious. The business works if you follow the system ive been doing this for 9 months and i am going to be a platinum soon 5000 pin well on my way and funny thing is all i did was tell people to change the way they shop. We have awesome products i spent so little money and it all comes back at the end of the year what a concept. Its funny people have tired everything to stop us wonder why we are still here its simple you my opponents work in a pyramid who the hell is anyone to tell me its a pyramid wake up your job is a pyramid and i will explain how nonbelievers you are a worker your boss makes more then you the ceo makes more then you oh guess thats hard to understand stop the bashing of something you know nothing about keep living pay check to paycheck see where you go headed to nowhere thank God i dont work in a job anymore i can wake up when i feel like it dont need to be ordered to come and go as i please independent business owner rules residual income does your job give you a raise yes try what 2k a year lol i can pay my own benefits thanks to this business i dont have to wait till 72 to retire wake up in a job you get laid off i dont have to worry about those things

Oh by the way just because it dont work for you dont mean it dont work for others its called they are scared to spend very little money and thank God i didnt listen to my broke friend who at this time is on the unemployment line trying to pay his rent

brien   nyc

4:25am on Thursday, July 17th, 2008 

stephanie from maryland i couldnt agree with you more bravo finally someone with a brain quixtar rules ive done very well and its funny how people bash something because either they have been in it and havent done what they say or never been in this know nothing about it and bash it lol just because they are miserable in their job or can barely afford to pay the bills. Thanks to quixtar amway or whatever you want to call it i dont have to work in a job anymore like others who do and live a good life. I dont have to work for an employer and pray the company wont go out of business and be on the unemploymet line like so many others. As long as you work for an employer you will never get anywhere in life medicore at best is this what you want please. Most people are lazy that is why they dont succeed they never said this was a guarantee and besides the only people that lose so much money dont know what they are doing. I will be waving to the negatives when i go diamond in about 3 years remaining which im on pace to do and its funny my friend told me i was crazy its a scam dont do it well he still works on his job making ends meat and im on my way doing well making residual income of 5500 a month part time about 16 hours a week and work in real estate which is a job but i am not owned by the company thats the difference. When things look too good to be true everyone bashes it feable minds this company tells you to read well sadly most dont read in their life thats why they have medicore jobs knowledge is power some never picked up a book sad well good luck retiring at 72 the new retirement age oh wait will your job still be there thats the question good luck i know where im going straight to the top

Stefanie   Maryland

11:42am on Tuesday, July 15th, 2008 

Anonymous, Location unknown
Posted at 10:51pm on Wednesday, May 28th, 2008

Also maybe you should take a look at the big box stores that have tied their name to quixtar. Here are just a few.
Disney, Dell, Circuit City, Esso, Home Hardware, Bass Pro Shops.

Dont speak unless you know what you are talking about.

Reading this post makes me very sad that you "just don't get it". The companies you mentioned DO NOT WORK WITH AMWAY. Anyone can purchase items from those companies. Amway (or if it makes you feel better "Quixtar") is just a distributor of the mentioned companies products. Some of the companies listed have even tried to sue Amway for making such statements. Also, don't feel every negative comment on here is from a person who knows nothing about "the business". I've lived it and most of those commenting have obviously done some homework on the subject. Making nasty comments, only makes YOU look ridiculous. There IS a way to obtain the "American Dream" full of flashy cars and exotic vacations . . . It is called hard work and either investing your money wisely or starting YOUR OWN company where YOU reap the FULL profits. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Mercedes   brooklyn,NY

2:14pm on Monday, July 14th, 2008 

quixtar.amway

a scam !

since Friday we have been thru meetings:
friday at 8pm
saturday at 8pm
sunday at 6:pm

from the moment my boyfriend told me about it i was like the Matrix never stops reinventing itself!

they are SCAMWAY -

please people do not go to these meetings, since when do you start a business and you are below the president of the company? is your money, your time and your family, and all those three would soon be gone if you dont wake up.

open your eyes

craig   nj

6:27pm on Sunday, July 13th, 2008 

its funny how people bash businesses they know nothing about. It seems most live in caves these days with their family. In this business when did anyone say its guaranteed hello never its an opportunity to make some money didnt say anything about getting rich last i recall. I have been in this business for 2 years ok i havent made alot only about 1500 a month which really is not that bad part time it pays my gas bill and additional bills as well so for me its something not alot yet but something. I cant bash a business that is making me some money and yes stats say otherwise but really im one who dont believe in stats im a firm believer if something is working dont brake it. I have met many friends in this business and besides i can retire from my job in time all that matters

mike   ny

4:53am on Sunday, July 13th, 2008 

well its funny how you listen to so many people in life and base your decision on a blog. This is not for the average person this business i have met so many friends that would do anything for me such as i had a flood in my basement and my friend who owns his own business was able to do this for me for nothing other then us being friends he is an ibo who is now going into ruby qualification. Its funny how people say this is a legal pyramid scheme wake up your job is a pyramid period because as long as you work for someone you wil get absolutely nowhere in life if you are comfortable with that then by all means go for it. I like the idea of one person in here who said something about primeamerica i think it was called at least thats not a job but a business. In life lets face it nothing is easy it takes time and work but going to a meeting for 5 dollars is like peanuts and i joined this business with so little money down i have been laughing to the bank ever since. I will be able to quit my job in a very short time thanks to alticor which is the parent company of our business. Its funny how people try to shoot down a business that is doing so well. We are not going down anytime soon for all you negative people we have been around for 50 years and have a 5a1 credit rating which means mr negative we owe no debt to anyone. I started this business spending 144 dollars and have made pretty good money in 2 years doing this. What business will give me part time and by the way i do this about 15-18 hours a week max a residual income of 4-6k a month which is now what i am about to receive. If this is some scam well i guess the money is not real as well must be counterfeit. In this business they didnt say you are guaranteed anything and besides i met some really awesome friends spent little money the cds its funny my friend gives them to me and sends them to my email i pay nothing for that and books well the same books i buy at barnes and noble which i have always done anyway i get paid for now to me its a win win situation. We dont need to advertise although we just started doing so and will be doing even more in 2010. I know one thing i get paid to drink the water i drink do you get paid to drink poland spring i dont think so. Negative people will always try to bring down a business probably because they are so miserable in their life working for an employer they try to kncok a business. I feel sorry for people that will work until they are 72 the new retirement age or think they can live on a pension which is shrinking every day oh by the way im not cruel and charge my customers retail value maybe other ibos in this business do but i give them the same price i pay for it i still get paid anyway not as much but some

rizwan   texas

11:43pm on Thursday, July 10th, 2008 

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Me & Me   MD

10:53pm on Wednesday, July 9th, 2008 

You know what,

The picture they painted of the 'dream' is something everyone wants - goal and dream of life.

The people making it big in this Quixtar business are selfish, narrow-minded.
The contributions to charity is to save face - to have a mask for the world to see - that it's for good cause.

But look deeper.
People who works for quixtar talk about layoffs, working for corporate America on a daily basis - same schedule, and this is something that is great?

No.
It may be great for the quixtar IBOs, but not for the consumers, the customers.
People are already in great debt.
People hardly have any savings for retirement.
In fact, the retirement savings rate is at a NEGATIVE since the Great Depression according to Money Magazine.

By luring people in to buy retail products is putting people in further debt.
Thus, the IBOs are in this co. for themselves, not for others.

That's the overall picture as a consumer.




You want to live the dream? you want to accomplish your goals in life? You want to built your business WHILE helping people out of debt and save for retirements and benefit the community???

Look no further - join PRIMERICA.

We actually educate our clients and help them become debt free and financially independent.

We have their interests not their money.
If you think about it intelligently, even though we are agents, we're not selling the clients anything they don't need or want

We help people pay off their mortgage. We didn't sell them the mortgage - someone else did. We helped to accelerate their payment.

We help people save for retirement. We help to educate them about investing in mutual funds and how the bank takes advantage of people with their 3% rate of return and their massive passing out credit cards.

We help people get adequate life insurance for a reasonable, cheaper price than what they have already been paying. We educate the majority who have whole life insurance to get term insurance.

We are educators to help people. We earn our money through helping others. NOT PUTTING PEOPLE IN MORE DEBT.

We feel good about making a difference in people's lives - not just focusing on non-profit charitable organization but everyday people.

We have pleasure trips all expense paid by the company to recognize the difference we have made to our community.




Quixtar reps, it's time to turn your heels and join PRIMERICA a citi company.

kim   pa

6:22pm on Wednesday, July 9th, 2008 

k so my boyfriend and i attended a quixtar meeting yesterday after being what i would consider harassed at walmart.. my boyfriend thought it sounded legit bc the couple that stopped us said it was their business and they were just starting out and needed some positive assets to work part time.. first lie. they gave him a goody bag at their first meeting and convinced him it wasn't a pyramid.. second lie. maybe not an illegal one.. but it sure sounds like a pyramid to me. just by reading the reviews on here and having about oh, 5 or 6 different people come up to us and have the same conversation talking up the people that recruited us.. (almost seeming as if they were God.) i looked at my boyfriend of over two years and said it was time to go. he disagrees with me 100% but i absolutely do not trust this situation.. if you're not super social and okay with being turned down time and time again, this isn't the place for you.. besides that, you have to pay to get into these meetings and everything else.. which is probably where the majority of anyone else's profit comes from. someone talk to me here, maybe i have the wrong idea.. but for the love of god, don't get an attitude and try to act better than me.. i saw a lot of that below, im not looking to pick a fight with any egotistical jerks.. i just would love some answers from people that have been in my shoes, someone that isnt trying to make money off of me.. thanks.

Craig   N.C.

1:21pm on Wednesday, July 9th, 2008 

I was in Quixtar several years ago. The business is great if it is ran the way it is supposed to be. the Nutrilite vitamins are the best to me. I did not like the fact that the emeralds and diamonds were making most of their money by selling the books and tapes. When Quixtar was formed, it was a products business. In my opinion, the IBOA made it hard for the business owners to make the business work. I am in with another company now and am doing quite well. To everyone that says Quixtar is a scam, all you need to do is some research on the company. If you look strictly at the MLM concept, it is a perfect business model. You get paid for the effort you put forth. I work at a job where everyone gets a raise in April every year, regardless of the effort they put in. It is a so called cost of living raise. PLEASE!! As far as people saying it is a pyramid scheme, look at EVERY BUSINESS or ORGANIZATION in the world. They are pyramids. You will never make as much as your boss, regardless of how hard you work. Look at church, you have a pastor, associate pastor, deacons, then the congregation. If you work for the school system and you are a teacher, you will never make what the superintendent makes. In MLM, you can make as much or as little as you want. The key, as it is with everything you do in life, is to research the company you want to get involved with and make sure they have what you are looking for. Do more research than just what the company tells you or gives you. When you pick a major in college, marry your spouse, buy a car or house, you look in to it to make sure you are comfortable with the decision you are about to make. MLM and Quixtar is no different. You have to work at it to succeed.

Jame   Ohio

5:47pm on Tuesday, July 8th, 2008 

I have done a lot of research on this opportunity after attending a business meeting just last week. It's funny how everyone in this blog that supports this opportunity seems to say the same stuff, "I found myself" I'm working on getting free" you see this is all within your own mind. I cannot beleive the brainwashing that was taking place at this meeting. Look, Truth has nothing to fear from honest investigation. I am sure you can make money with this opportunity but the facts from the packet that I got from a "upline" or whatever they call them is that the average person does not. I'm sure all that defend will say I"m just being negative and whatever else your upline tells you to rebut with. You are preying on other people to buy products to support your dream. You don't give a shit about their success only your own. It's a LEGAL pyramid scheme. Why when you Google this opportunity you find so much negative stuff associated with it. In order for any deception to ever take place and to be believable there has to be a certain amount of truth to it. It makes me sick to they link Christian principles with this opportunity. "For the love of money is the root of all evil" that exactly what every single one of you that are involved in this opportunity is...blinded by your lust and love for money. I am sure you can make some money with this opportunity, but if it was such a sure fire thing why don't you see it advertised, spoke with in greater regard. ect....it's because you get deceived and once you are in and hear all the motivational speakers, tapes, rallys, stories, your mind takes a unrealistic view of the "the dream" And who says I'm not free. I work hard and you know what I'm proud of that. That's what is wrong with America, people willing to work and others willing to let them. Wake the fuck up and realize this opportunity 99% is nothing but a facade.

bryan   long island

6:09pm on Sunday, July 6th, 2008 

all i know is this has changed my life this business for the better especially with all the jobs going down the tube people losing their homes foreclosures thank God i dont have to worry about this since i became a ruby in my business. I am excited to have met so many new friends and people who are so successful and having the chance to go to these peoples homes who are doing so well. I will always thank my sponsor for the success i received through this. All i can say is that it worked for me and I know its hard to make a business work and really this is truly not for everyone especially if you are really not ambituous. I am proud to be on the stage each and every week having reached the ruby level on my way to diamond which nothing can stop me not even the negative people who truly dont believe so all i can say is i guess people would rather stay broke. I felt bad the other day when i saw my friend working as a sanitation worker never really getting to the full potential of making real money and just being comfortable so i guess the old saying to each his own good luck and God bless thank you alticor for making some of my dreams come true

JAKE   pa

7:55pm on Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008 

by the way you can retire by the age of 35 and its true because some did i this business its funny they try everything to knock this so called fraud business and by the way so called idiots we are still here i wonder why well by the way we have a 5a1 credit rating at dun and brad street does your job care about you i dont think so does your job guarantee youll still have one tomorrow nope the only idiots are the people that still work in jobs they will never have a prayer in getting rich i have retired because of this business and have residual income yes 2% made it i am one of them i will be a diamond shortly and its funny i remember people telling me how stupid i was to be in this business and i am so glad i didnt listen to losers and negative people in my life or id be working for an emplyer for the rest of my life and yes i do have a masters degree in business do you and if so great. Its funny how people say we are a cult lol and we have gargae water educate yourself morons no mercury in our water and no chlorine in our water keep drinking poland spring and great bear which have all these horrible things in it and are owned by the same people and by the way energy drinks red bull what a joke full of sugar carbs and calories we have 0 for all of these things and many people do have energy drinks. I am not saying join anything and i am not saying dont work in a job but to bash something that can work for the very few which i am proud to say i did i laugh because it did take me 6 years to get there but im almost there about maybe 9 months and then diamond which i will make quite a bit of money. I dont stay home in this business i just have customers buy some things and spend some money but not that much i love my checks every 15th oh by the way will you ever make more then your boss or better yet the ceo answer NEVER how many people are unemployed today is that a job the answer yes i dont have to wait on the unemployment line thank God i didnt listen to these idiots who told me i cant its called negative people kill the bugs where is my spray for these people who dont believe i guess my dream came true i wasnt sold anything and met so many friends that would do so much for me and i wouldnt trade this for any job good luck in your job i hope it gives you great wealth in your life

jack   new york city

7:42pm on Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008 

this program is awesome its funny how people say we are idiots. Did they say its a guarantee to make money or a get rich program and by the way who said anything about staying home. I have made money in this business go work in your job forever. Yes its true very few do well but quitters will always be quitters. Lol fraud group whatever its funny how people hide and dont show their true colors. Tell you what send me your email which of course you wont come face to face stop bashing something you know nothing about LOSERS AND IDIOTS by the way it takes one to know one keep working for your pathetic jobs in life getting nowhere FInancial freedom rules

m   k

4:19pm on Tuesday, July 1st, 2008 

Hi Everyone

This program really sucks.. If its really genuine business they should be open enough what they are going to do and what should i to earn money whatever they say..

I am new to California, coming from India for a business trip. When I tried to contact people from social community. One of the guy whom I met in net, said ur very ambitious and so on.. I will suggest you something which will make ur dream come true very soon..

K lets see I said. He took me for a meeting like Brainstorming session.. one gentleman started to address the session nicely.. He started with building sw BWW and talked abt Quixtar.. And said he can retire at the age of 35+ and earn million by just doing this business..
I didnt find any logic what he is talking about.. Interesting thing is I can see lot people from highly designated professionals from software side... Everyone talking about early retirement by joining this Quixstar business.. If they are right almost 70 percentage of population doesnt need to do full time job.... Then where does the money comes from... Hope everyone agress with me...

After some weeks one more guy called me, hey I will introduce to group of people who are business man.. They will help you to start businness as a part time.. I asked him is it Quixstar... No no He said.. but still i doubted him...

So whats there lets go and attend that meetin too.. After few minutes this another set of people with same presentation they started talking..

They way convince people is as if they are certain that you will earn thousands of dollar as soon as you join the team.. No way...

The beautiful part all the people whom I met till they end they have nt said anything how one is going to make money either its comission when u join new one or sell a product or something else...

I got only one answer.. First you join you will get to know everything...

This says everything what this business is rgt..

Let me tell u something... No one can earn money by simply sitting at home and talkin to peoples.. The peoples who works for company and go at office are fools...

Now its upto you r u want to be fool or good human being..

I want global community to ban this fraud group..

TJ   Chicago

2:01pm on Tuesday, July 1st, 2008 

How many of these IBO's passed the 7th grade? This is some of the dumbest shit that I ever read. I'm sure when you don't even know how to structure a sentence you come off very intelligent to the people you are trying to sell to. Of course you probably just sell to other idiots like yourself. You people are annoying to everyone, especially to your friends and family that know this is garbage. If my friend who is an IBO tells me one more time that he is going to be retired next year and driving a Lambo I am going to blow his brains out. After he returned from one of these cult meetings he was a f'ing freak. Telling us how he has now found himself and is so enlightened, how all of us are stupid for working a regular job. You idiots all sound like robots, repeating everything these people have stuck in your head. I'm done, by the way if you are good at sales you can make much more than $2k a month with a regular sales job not some stupid energy drink and water scam.

jake   ny

4:37pm on Monday, June 30th, 2008 

i dont understand runing your marriage huh? the only people that dont make money dont do the work wake up if you go all the time and follow the system you will make some money thats a fact maybe not alot but some. Remember no more alarm clocks and financial freedom believe in the power by the way we have a 5a1 credit rating no debt this business na dnow have more millionaires then microsoft and yes we were investigated and we are still here because they are trying to find things that arent there for all the negative people that believe in cant work go back to your jobs no more clocks ever wake up when i feel like it awesome

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david   nyc

4:32pm on Monday, June 30th, 2008 

well thank God Jon from Florida that you wrote things that are so true. Its funny how people say it breaks up relationships and they spend so much money whay money are you spending because if you are foolish enough to spend thousands of dollars then you deserve to be broke. Just remember the only pyramid in life is your job which you truly will never make what the higher person like a ceo make. How can you say this is a pyramid scheme when the people in my organization are doing better then me. People who dont make it in this business are quitters they give up and yes alot dont make it and the truth is I love this business it has made me some pretty good money and hey it didnt work for you well you can always do something else. This is not a get rich fast program which they didnt guarantee they said you have the opportunity to make some money they didnt hold a gun to your head and its funny they use the term here brainwashed listen you have a mind of your own if you dont like it get out abandon ship i do very well not rich from this but do well. At least i dont have to work for an employer all my life telling me what to do and besides is the job you have safe working for a company today the answer is no you can be laidoff at any time. I am not saying its great but to go broke and spend thousands of dollars lol on what buying a couple of cds and going to some 6 dollar meetings and maybe 1 meeting a year that was 180 dollars and now im broke what kinf of job do you have in life that with some books you buy which by the way they sell them in barnes and noble self improvement books which have helped me in my life and i get paid to buy them at barnes and noble through this business. Let me ask you does sports authority give you money back when you purchase something the answer no in this business you get a rebate check back. I have many customers that buy the basics and by the way know one is saying to buy energy drinks and vitamins lol this is not the only thing we have for your information. Do you get paid to drink poland spring which has mercury and chlorine in the water you drink try tasting perfect water and see how pure and oxygenized it is an compare the 2 if im wrong well thats your opinion and by the way deek park great bear and poland spring all owned by the same manufacturer hmmm. Its funny in life does everyone do well in sports, or is a great dancer not everyone is good at everything or is interested in everything so to the people who bash this business go back to your jobs and good luck you wouldnt be bashing it if you made money like me but when you somehow which i have no idea spend thousands of dollars a month what in the world are you buying is it everything only for you and you have no ibos or customers otherwise you must be spending like 1k only you are spending it and have no one else buying anything weird. I know one thing i feel sorry for people that have to go to work all the time because they have no choice really i do i used to until i went into real estate an do well in real estate as well as this business nothing comes easy in life but i truly believe if you want something bad enough nothing can stop you in life the problem is people dont believe in themselves and what they are capable of working for an employer is suicide unless you like having to just get by in life which to me really stinks but they are comfortable which is ok for them not for me. I met someone yesterday he is a police officer for nyc he told me he hated his job because he was ordered to do so much in his life and had no life what a shame this is for someone to say this and that the job makes no money well good luck

Jon   FL

3:21pm on Friday, June 27th, 2008

Quixtar/Amway has had a huge positive effect on my life. I totally disagree with people who believe that the system wrecks relationships. Before the business I use to be prideful and arrogant and I didn't have a good relationship with my brother, but now because of the education (education = books & cds)through LTD, my brother and I actually work together and wow, we actually say "I love you" to each other and that's the way it ought to be with family. LTD is the education system which is provided through my upline and LTD is not a part of Quixtar/Amway.

Kate   Hell

5:57pm on Thursday, June 26th, 2008 

This "business opportunity" is ruining our family, marriage, relationships, and finances. It has changed my husband from being an easy going,good natured,family man & respected professional in the medical field-into an obnoxious, overbearing, embarrassing, cult-minded freak. He neglects our home, family, marriage, and his church in favor of staying out all hours of the night for "meetings", (to convert new victims) for "Team Builders" (meetings with the Brethren- or as I call it "Home Wreckers) and he gets a glassy eyed glazed over look everywhere we go as he zeros in on any new potential convert, be it a stranger or any blood relative. He has spent thousands of dollars on tapes, books, seminars, conferences and boatloads of products delivered to our home, most of which I do not like and would never purchase a second time from any store. He is excited to push their "magic water" anytime he has a captive audience to tip. With the education he has he should know better.
This is a scam that preys on what used to be hard working normal people who have been brainwashed into the belief that this is an opportunity of a lifetime. I don't recognize my husband. He acts as though this is his new family or religion. I miss my husband and want him back.

Daniel   AZ

4:24am on Sunday, June 22nd, 2008 

On the official Amway website, the company message is that you must sell a certain amount of products every month, which is how the whole business started and how it's supposed to be in order for the business to remain legit. This business would be ok if you do just that. Unfortunately, those who achieved the top levels a long time ago realized that they make a lot more money by selling the tapes, CDs, books and marketing materials to their downline. They have bypassed the actual legit products business and created a pyramid scheme out of the tools. Thus, their money comes ~90% from tools and the ~10% from products. They wouldn't be millionaires if that wasn't the case. Please read "Merchants of Deception" written by an Emerald. There is a lot of insider stuff in there that one would only find out once they achieved that level or higher. There are also testimonials online from former Diamonds. One will find out that most of them usually used the earned money to open a conventional business that doesn't have such a high turnover rate and truly allows them to leverage their time. Also, some were bought out of the business by the top money makers for wanting to straighten up the system. The money that the Double/Triple and Crown Ambassadors make is in majority (>90%) from their personal businesses they opened and connected to the Amway system. It is a deceitful business and very unchristian (for those concerned) as it gradually changes you to become more and more materialistic. What really got me very very upset was the fake Christianity portrayed in the books and on the stage. The health and wealth type of preaching doesn't have anything to do with the Bible. Furthermore, the Sunday services offered at the conventions are organized by a board composed of Diamonds and it's another money generating machine.
If you find an upline that actually teaches you how to market the products and sell them, and who is not involved in the tools business, then that's probably ok and you can make some extra money.
However, as you would do if you were to start any business out there, you should find out the figures. Your upline "should" be able to supply them to you. Some of the things you should be asking: How many people different Platinums in the upline currently have in order to sustain their level. How many people they lose in one month and how many they have to add to keep things going, what is their actual time and money involvement (driving included, the tools, the meetings, etc), how much your Platinum/Emerald/Diamond made during the last 2-3 years (minus expenses - the net income they got to keep). Ask to see an income tax statement. If you were to buy into any other business, you would want to know these things from the previous owner and there shouldn't be a problem.

A. Anderson   Mesa, AZ

3:43pm on Thursday, June 19th, 2008 

Interesting thoughts on Quixtar. Here is my take on MLM's in general or big business! If I start my own compnay and hire employees who sell my product to others through direct marketing or email or traditional methods most people do not consider them part of an MLM. In fact this model is similar to any MLM. I, the president get most of the money, anyone in my downline...employees get a cut for the work they do. In the Quixtar, you are not told that this is a get rich quick deal, you will have to work and there will be those who do not want your product. Yes, the products are priced higher....than Walmart brands! I would like to see an independent auditor sample all Quixtar products and compare to similar retail products before we have more informatal comparisons.

The CD's meetings, tapes....hip hip horah is what any good team will do to help promote and encourage its members. Go to church, a rock concert, a football game, or even a spelling bee and you will see people showing support and encouragement for their friends and family. If you don't see the value in Quixtar just don't use their products but the initial assesment was very lame and incomplete.

Stefanie   Maryland

3:21am on Thursday, June 19th, 2008 

I have been trying to contact former Amway/Quixtar IBO to help my Mom see the truth of "the business". We are trying to de-program her from the lies she has been fed from all the so-called motivational tapes and the hundreds of voicemails and emails she receives every day from her upline. We need to get her on an honest and true path of "Freedom" from the chains of Amway.

I am a child of an Amway/Quixtar IBO. I am NOT involved in "the business". My Mom and Dad are so much in debt from this whole business. That they even took out a second mortgage to support their "Family Reunion", "Spring Conference", and other conventions. I've been to these conventions with them when I was younger. So, I know first-hand what goes on in there. It was very scary to be in that huge auditorium full of people chanting and repeating everything the people on stage were saying. I felt like I was at a revival. But, instead of worshipping God, they worshiped money. The masses were being brainwashed. It was very apparent to me at a young age. I also found it to be VERY similar to Scientology. If you say anything negative about Amway (it will ALWAYS be Amway to me)you are not their friend or looking out for their best interest. I was embarrassed to go places with my parents because they were always looking for contacts. It was all very fake. Be nice to someone to be nice, not because you want to con them into making you a $1 a month. All of my family has talked behind my parents back regarding their involvement with Amway. However, my parents are grown adults and at some point you honestly have to let them make their own mistakes (I sound like the parent here.). Well things have changed. My Dad has passed and my Mom is now on a fixed income. The people in the business did not let her out of their site through the whole funeral process. There was always someone at the house. They even screened her calls. It was all very weird. I think they thought we would all talk her out of the business. Well, she honestly cannot afford to be in the business and they don't care. If they were true friends, they would see she can't afford or need a case of paper towels. When my Dad passed I found cases and cases of energy drinks in the garage and don't get me started on my parents medicine cabinet. It was full with HUNDREDS of bottles of vitamins. I had a huge pit in the bottom of my stomach seeing all this. There is something honestly wrong with all of this. I knew it when I was 18 and I know it now (in my 30's). My parents had NO ONE under them when my Dad passed. They flushed and flushed more money into this business. They didn't go on vacations like normal couples, they didn't rationalize overpaying to get "PV" didn't actually make them money. My Dad was a very intelligent man. I think at some point, he knew they would NEVER make the money Amway flaunts in the videos during the conventions. But, he was too proud to admit he had been dooped and went along with the sham to "try and get my Mom home". I am very bitter at the people that first invited them to a Wednesday Open meeting. If they hadn't, my parents would've had a more fruitful life and my Dad may still be alive today. Shame on you people that posted on here who try and justify the practices of a company that HAS been proven to be fraudulent. The only people making the "real money" are in the Amway offices in Ada, Michigan and that will NEVER change. That is just how the company works.

Turning a blind eye and feeling too proud to admit you were scammed, could put you in the poor house, cause you a loss of family and true friends, or ultimately stress you out until . . .

L   Lithuania

7:23am on Wednesday, June 18th, 2008

try search youtube.com for Scam=Quixtar=Amway=Alticor

Juan   Toronto

4:14am on Sunday, June 15th, 2008 

Hey bryan, you are so brainwashed...it's not even funny. Just read what you just wrote. You call us "losers" for keeping a steady and reliable income to provide for our families. I've had a brief stint with quixtar and i got out before i committed anything. My sister joined a couple years later despite my warnings and it damn near ruined her life. Quixtar told her and her boyfriend that they would be more successful in this "business" if they were married...because apparently people respond better to married couples. Long story short, she is now separated and involved in a messy legal battle. You think she needed vitamins and energy drinks that badly??

See that's a scam right there...you don't NEED vitamins if you keep a healthy diet. You don't NEED purified water...you pay taxes that keep your tap water clean. You don't NEED energy drinks if you get a good night's sleep. They tell you to buy these products and encourage people to buy them because it's things that they NEED...but you don't need them...that's more brainwashing.

You make a profit out of this "business"...that puts you in a very small percentage. And you are being influenced by an even smaller percentage. The percentage that flashes dollar signs in your face and say that "you can make it too". Just remember that your money and their money comes from the LARGE percentage of people that don't see jack from this "business". People that waste their time and money because people like you promise them a "better life" by buying vitamins.

I don't have any "double diamond" friends...but we have a great time having a beer and watching the game.

Call me a loser in front of my wife and kid...I'm sure they'll disagree.

Erick   Florida

7:31pm on Wednesday, June 11th, 2008 

If it's not a scam then why is Quixtar being investigated by the Federal Trade Commission and why was there a expose on Dateline....

Quixtar members are basically snake oil salesmen

bryan   nj

10:23am on Tuesday, June 10th, 2008 

hey bob the only pyramid scheme is in your head try your working class job in corporate america lol you want to talk about pyramid scheme get your facts straight buddy. How is lol a pyramid scheme when i am an ibo going to be a ruby real soon thank you very much and lets see 9 of the people i sponsored make alot more then me so if you really understood anything about this you would get your facts straight. The only pyramid is your job working 9-5 every day going nowhere in life laying around a tv which of course is for losers gets you know where in life. Its like watching pro athletes do you really think they care if you root for them lol please they make so much money and its the suckers that go to the game and waste their time why they are rolling in the big bucks. People who are negative in life which is quite alot in this day and age go nowhere ever probably 98% of the population while 2% succeed. I look at it like this its funny how one person said they lost so much in 6 years how can you lol lose so much money unless you were foolish enough to spend so much. I spend on an average about 250-300 a month on all the things i need anyway from cheerios, paper towels, dishwashing liquid, energy drinks, and the best water in the world.

Maybe if people were educated which most arent they would know that the water they drink which is polland spring, deer park and great bear are owned by the same person and by the way i guess people must love the taste of chlorine and mercury its called poison. How water is purified, remineralized, ionized, microstructured and oxygen rich no water can beat it. Check out the presentation sometime.

Its funny how so many people say they lose money well for 1 thing i go to 2 meetings a month at the very least have hundreds of customers by so little cds its a joke and make over 4k a month im not rich in this business but at least i dont work in a job other then real estate which by the way is not residual income. Is your job residual income do they care about you when you retire oh i forgot you get your pension check which is shrinking day by day you honestly think you can live off that lol its a joke. The new retirement age for your information is 72. Unlike others that want to work till they are 72 because they cant afford to retire this business for me anyway in say another 3-5 years will mame me a guarantee 250-500k for the rest of my life ill be 36. I will say it dont work for everyone i agree but for some like myself it does work. Its all about the right people to work with because if you have the right chemistry with certain ibos you can do wonders in this business.

Its funny people do research for what it costs 144 dollars not thousands of dollars unless your stupid enough to buy tons of products and cds. I have never lost money ever in this business and will continue to profit.

Oh by the way does walmart or ebay compensate you on anything do they care about you the answer nope

Whatever you do in life good luck working from paycheck to paycheck I for one will be waving to people that go to their jobs and this scorching heat just like my double diamond friend who makes a good amount of money.

The people that made it which i agree is not many tell them why they cant succeed. The people that use words like can't try and will go nowhere in this life.

I have never seen so many negative people in this world. Anyway good luck and God bless

Bob   PA

4:55pm on Wednesday, June 4th, 2008 

If one reads the comments made by Quixtar supporters, he or she will find that they are riddled with typos and poor grammar. This is just another sign of the type of people who fall into this awful Pyramid Scheme.

Ly   Montvale, NJ

8:22am on Wednesday, June 4th, 2008 

I have been an IBO for many years - I am not against this business because nothing is really forced out of you. You do as you please and when you don't want to do this any more, you just don't register for it again. Simple as that. You can bring people in, or just buy the products. After a couple of years, I gave up trying to bring people in but I still have the membership several years later for the simple reason that the products are good quality. Lately, I haven't reached the level that would cause me to receive a check but who cares? Walmart, Shoprite, and all the other big stores I go to never sent me a check either and I spend a lot more in those stores. But it is nice to know that if I do shop a lot in Quixtar, I will be receiving a "thank you" check :)

Anonymous   Location unknown

10:51pm on Wednesday, May 28th, 2008

Get your facts straight. In this day and age all my business with quixtar is done via computer. IF you want to know about the business you can see the plan from the comfort of your own computer.

Also, Barry. I have owned three different companies in my life. I am 37 years old and challenge you to find any other business that you can run for 400.00 a month and get products in return. Products you use everyday. I personally have friends who spend 500.00 a month to run their part time business and in return are receiving over 5000.00 per month in profit and commisions.

ALso maybe you should take a look at the big box stores that have tied their name to quixtar. Here are just a few.
Disney, Dell, Circuit City, Esso, Home Hardware, Bass Pro Shops.

Dont speak unless you know what you are talking about.

Andrew   GA

9:26am on Tuesday, May 27th, 2008 

As a quixtar IBO and a soldier I have found it a wonderful way to supplement my income and provide for me and my family. The army does a good job put they don't pay all that well. With Quixtar I have been able to bring in over $400 a month with no down line making purchases for themselves. I do order some products for myself from my self and all but my customers make the bulk of my money. THIS is only a scam if you are not willing to do a little work and expect to make a lot for nothing

john   ny

8:30am on Saturday, May 24th, 2008 

this business is so awesome if you believe you will achieve thank God i didnt listen to this jerk who said this cant work total moron i have made almost 2k a month i still work but thank God i have this extra money especially with the rising cost of gas and not waiting on lines anymore. I am not even a platinum yet but only been in this business 8 months probably take me another year but hey it didnt really cost that much and what business doesnt cost money

Marcus   Michigan

10:22am on Tuesday, May 20th, 2008 

I was invovled in this "Business" for over a two years reaching the Platinum Level. Apon personal experiences and research I would define Quixtar as a cult. They use your hopes and dreams against you and prey on your fears. This business may have produced many millionares, but you must consider how many IBO have entered the field. Research the numbers and you will come the conclusion Quixtar/Amway is the most inefficient "successful" large business of of all time. With a 99% of IBO losing money. I apologize to those I involved, and can only hope of for those who continue in this "business." Here is two stat I leave you with 85% margin in tools and about 30% margin on products from the website. Also 95% of profit gained by Quixtar/Amway are produced from the pockets of harded working IBO's pockets 5% from fproducts purchases on the online database. I would greatly recommend doing research before you join this "business".

Jenny   OK

1:15pm on Friday, May 16th, 2008 

I dated a guy who was into the Quixtar scam. Had been for 6 years and he's in a pile of debt. I went to one of the "conventions" with him. Spending 14 hours a day in an arena listening to this crap was enough to drive me crazy. It truly felt like I had entered a cult. They would say, "Do you want to be FREE"?? [Insert crazy screaming and clapping]. And then on Sunday their "church service" consisted of how Jesus wants us to succeed with this business. What a waste of 2 days of my life that I will never get back.

bryan   nyc

7:00pm on Friday, May 9th, 2008 

Its funny how someone can say this business is a pyramid but what they dont realize is their job in corportae america is a pyramid lol. It is also funny how people say that the only one who will always make money is the person on the top and the guy you sponsored cant make more knows nothing about this business. For your information i am a platinum finally it did take almost 3 years but i did it which i now have par titme residual income of about for me almost 3k. You are not forced to do anything in this business. I go to maybe one meeting a week and buy like maybe 3 cds a month which costs me nothing. I buy a couple of things maybe spend 100-150 a month which is a joke. I will tell you i have sponsored a handful of people and i will tell you first hand they are well 4 people that i sponsored are doing alot better then me by means of they are well 2 of my people are emeralds one ruby and one like me the rest yes i am making more but like i said people do amek more then you who you sponsor so for the person who said this is a pyramid you need to do your research. I hardly do anything now and pretty much it runs itself for me. You dont have to buy everything they didnt put no gun to your head please stop with all the negativity from your broke friends. Yes i do work a full time job and yes this works for me i havent quit my job and i am still here. Give things a chance in life i will tell you it is hard but you can do it not everyone will succeed alot actually but some like myself are on their way. Do what is good for you but if its not for you well do something you wnjoy i do enjoy this business good luck

Josh   Omaha

2:40am on Friday, May 9th, 2008 

I don't get what is so unethical about Quixtar...I have been an IBO for about a month now and I will be receiving my first check in a week. I love the opportunity that Quixtar gives me. I have sponsored one IBO and have 3 customers that like the products and are going to continue to buy from my online retail site. I am a college student/athlete and I use Quixtar as a past-time. I hope to eventually make some serious money, that is just a goal of mine. All of you anti-Quixtar people are coming up with numbers and figures that are not true...basically, don't bash people for enjoying their Quixtar opportunity.

Anonymous   Location unknown

2:32am on Friday, May 9th, 2008 

Well quixtar at first seems awesome but I am in big trouble right now. I joined and it cost me 165 dollars, thats what they said but than the charges just kept piling in. First I had to join their online qi thing which was 30 bucks next they tell me to buy 100 points worth of stuff ($300)just to make $13.50 and sell 50 points worth of stuff ($100). Well I come from a poor family and there is no way that I can ever buy 100 points worth of stuff stuff to make a few bucks. Then I talked to them asking can I sell things here, or there, on the internet and all every time the answer is no no no no no no no no no no no you can't. Well where can I sell this stuff...they say through people to people. Well, the thing is I'm trying so hard talking to everyone degrading myself asking random people talking to everyone I know and guess what nothing. The answer everyone gives me is that stuff is too expensive.Or when they do buy they only buy once or twice and that only generates me like 20 pv maybe 40 at most. Than I still have to buy my points worth, with a income of like $7 an hour how do I buy 100 points worth of stuff. (Don't tell me its expensive because of quality, lol, I found items equivalent to their quality at 30 times cheaper. Also I found some items they ar selling for 50 bucks cheaper. Also don't say well your not getting paid to buy from others. Well, they aren't paying me if I don't make 150 pv. Which is $300. So which would I rather do save 50 bucks or spend $300 to make a few bucks. Its obvious)

This is a pyramid for sure. Let me explain.

there is the top guy who tells his downline to buy 100 pv. That downline buys 100 pv well the top guy already made 100 pv doing nothing. Lets say the top guy buys 100 pv to. Now he has 200 pv while the downline doesn't even make enough pv to get a $20 check. Next the downline sponsors a person. The first downline buys 100 pv the second downline buys 100 pv, the top guy buys 100 pv. Now the top guy has 300 pv, the second downline has 200 pv, and the third guy has nothing. Eventually you end up with some people who hits a wall where they can't get anyone to join and they can't afford to buy stuff. Guess what that new guy is screwed. Then there are people who say my downline makes more than me, well guess what that downline is now the top and everyone else is screwed, but remember that downline is still nothing compared to the top guy. The top guy will always make more than everyone else. Once a person sits on the pinicle of the pyramid lol, no one can beat him. He doesn't have to do anything anymore. Yes quixtar worked 10 years ago but now in this day and age it doesn't work at all. In my meetings whenever the speaker asks who has made a profit only like one person raises their hand, and thats because that one person forgot to count the money they lost. In my opinion great business opportunity if you have $10,000 to begin with. Close to a scam if you have nothing to start with.

Joe   Texas

6:05pm on Thursday, May 8th, 2008 

Quixtar itself is a legal business. The scam part is your awesome upline advising you to buy all those tapes and attend all the meetings. What many IBO's don't know is that some of the diamonds make most of their money from those tapes and seminars and not from quixtar.

Most IBO's trust their uplines so they don't ask tough questions about the tools scam. Nobody has ever talked about seeing a payment plan for tools. It's the dirty part of the business.

Noah   AZ

3:08pm on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008 

ummmmm...to all these people that say Quixtar is a scam and that they just try to take your money and that they want you to ONLY buy their products...you're wrong. I became an IBO a few weeks ago and i didn't come in thinking that I was going to become a multi-millionaire. I came in because it is a way to make a secondary income flow. My dad was hurt on the job a few years before he was supposed to retire but the injury forced him to retire early. If it wasn't for the secondary income flow he built while being an IBO and fireman, my dad and/or mom would have been forced to work in a job that they had no intention doing to make ends meet. Instead, they are both happily retired and ENJOYING retirement. and as for products that we supposedly MUST buy...what the hell!?!? My upline is very clear to buy things that you LIKE from the business and to buy from other stores if you like those products instead...thats why you make money by also selling products (and not only Vitamins and XS drinks...there are tons of things you can market)instead on just what is "bought" by you. Oh and Mr. Albright, there is a way to set up a website to advertise your business...it cost $20 a month...and as for the "CD's and books and meetings" that you MUST go to...thats all bogus. Yes, it is RECOMMENDED that you do buy the CD's and books and go to meetings because these help you grow as a person, but by no means are you FORCED TO. and honestly, you literally spend about $1,000 a year on that stuff (how many of you spent close or near to that by attending ONE motivational event or workshop in a field that entices you in the past year?) alot of what I am hearing negative about Quixtar from people is not anything about Quixtar...its all about the IBO who pestered you or told you that you must buy this and that...unforunately, Quixtar can not control how people decide to build their "business" and unfortunately people join Quixtar and do not follow what is taught by the Corporation...so before any more bashing goes on, why don't you take the time and actually investigate Quixtar besides takes some bits of info from here and there and throwing it all together to portray one ugly picture..oh, i have made $0 in this business so far (that will change with time) and I shop at WalMart all the time...and still reach my weekly goals for my business...and i have never heard one person in Quixtar ever put down WalMart...in fact, they are used as an example in Quixtar when explaining "distribution"

bryan   manhattan

6:51pm on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 

well marie from ca i totally agree with you for 1 thing i met some nice friends in here some of which are truly great people even if things didnt go well. I have been in this business for 1 year and i just reached the platinum level its about $2,800 a month i do however still work but not for long. I know the stats say otherwise but i am a true believer that i can beat the facts and be one of the people who go diamond.

I dont criticize people who dont join but for every 10 people for me 4 join so far at least statistically wise anyway. I do work a day job for a computer company but not happy their because i have to work 9-5 and tired of this that is why i am focusing on this business. I can see the residual which is happening already and really not everyone will be successful probably most but it doesnt mean i cant be one who succeeds

It has cost me hardly anything think about it what is gas going to be this summer like 5 dollars a gallon to go shopping in the store. I have done some research and i buy only the things that are the same as the store or a bit cheaper and have found many. I am one who loves the x/s energy drink for me anyway it tastes pretty good and lol i get paid for it which is even better

I have another business like this but doesnt do as well as this business. Somebody said to me you have to spend all this money i am like what money lets see i go to 3 meetings a month which is 15 dollars total, I buy like 5 cds a month thats another 25 dollars total, and 2 books which is another 25 dollars ok so thats what 65 dollars total. It costs me 144 dollars to get started so for me i have done ok since i started.

I mean lol i didnt make millions but i am able to lease a mercedes benz not bad because of this business and its residual. You have to understand people will always criticize any business thats life. I am not looking to make millions but will be happy to just go diamond which is about 400-600k and if i dont make it well if i cant get close or even where i am at its ok because its money i never had in the first place before i started this business

I have met many who didnt succeed but met a few who have so far. I have over 45 people now i sponsored and about 9 are really making it happen for me the rest well they are just there but havent really done much but its ok i just say NEXT and move on to the next person period.

david   ny

6:39pm on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008

oh by the way for people who think this is a pyramid well they know nothing because my downline makes alot more then me for starters and did you ever check out your employment paycheck job ITS CALLED A PYRAMID you will never make what the ceo makes so for all you people who think this is a pyramid get your facts straight. So tired of people who listen to their broke friends funny how people listen to people who are unsuccessful in life pity them. I have still not quit my day job but hey i make an additional $1,700 a month not that bad for a guy in the business for 8 months. Anyway good luck to anyone in the business and for those who are not i wish you the best in your job and life

john   nyc

4:50pm on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 

fianlly some one with a brain alot of negative people in the world dont see these things oh well not here to convince i know i am doing ok with this business really all that matters not rich but comfortable hey anyone here there are no more jobs these days called a recession not hiring paycheck jobs these days oh well have fun

Marie   Ca.

4:20pm on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 

I have been an IBO for almost five years and I think Quixtar is a great opportunity. I never signed on with this company to get rich. I think one must read between the lines, as with all "business opportunities" and take only the best attributes that work for them. I have never been required to "sell" anything.......and I wouldn't, it's not for me. I have only purchased a couple books, and attend meetings only when I can or want to. My upline and friends I have made have been supportive and helpful and I enjoy seeing them when I want to.

I have two questions for everyone out there:

1. How many times have you "checked-out" from a store and received your receipt and a $5.00 bill and a BIG THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING WITH US! (Would you continue to shop there in the future if you did?)

2. If you calculated all the money, time spent, gas and let's face it, hassle, of your daily, weekly, monthly and bulk shopping, including clothes, shoes, sports equipment for the kids, gifts, you name it.....had everything delivered to your home and received a check the following month for only the money you spent? (Would that be worth the $50.00 annual fee to be an IBO?)

Of course, my goal, as with everybody, is to make more and retire! But I have been very realistic with my business. ( I haven't quit my day job yet.) All I know is I get to shop from home and get a check the following month for the things I purchased. (That's pretty good if you ask me)

Opportunity   Anywhere, USA

11:39pm on Tuesday, April 22nd, 2008

Wow I cant believe that some people have figured out that Quixtar is a scam. I mean you have so many credible facts to back it up. Please dont tell the thousand or so stores that are linked up with Quixtar (Circuit City, Barnes and Nobles, Dicks Sporting Goods, Disney, Dell, etc.) To bad those stores dont have you on their staff because im sure they didnt do as much research as you did before they linked up with Quixtar. This global company is in 80 plus countries, millions of IBO's, Billions of dollars in sales but apparently some people have figured out its a scam im sure the company is really worried about this new info getting out. I also cant believe some "IBO's" try to contact people to give them free financial advice. I mean how annoying I hate when people try to help me. If Quixtar is a scam I hope I get scammed more often.

Mary   VA

12:01am on Monday, April 21st, 2008 

I have been an IBO for about 7 weeks. Will Quixtar make me rich? Probably not. I have spent more than I can afford. But I am told this is how you make money. I am still waiting for my first "bonus check". I have not made any profit that I know of. Am I crazy? Is Quixtar worth it? I am beginning to wonder. But, I do love their products, cleaner clothes, cleaner bathroom, cleaner kitchen, their products do brighten things up. But, I think you must be well off to afford their products. Products for the rich and famous. Know any famous people who use their products?

john   ny

7:06pm on Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 

whatever so many losers in this world whatever you say lol so many negative people in the world thats why 80% are broke in this world wow there is a loser born every minute

Cal   Surrey

4:15pm on Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM....

Jarrett   Jax FL

8:09am on Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 

ok, first off. how do you lose money in quixstar? you dont. you get paid to do your shopping online and have the items delivered the next day to your house. basically. you get paid to shop.

how is that losing money?

david   nyc

6:11pm on Monday, April 14th, 2008 

well i have read all your postings and i dont know about anyone else but i just went platinum i mean hey it took me almost 2 years but it is residual since i do get a check for around 3k every 15th of the month. I will say it wasnt easy but i didnt have to put up alot of money because for me well i copied alot of cds from my upline and went to some meetings which cost me around 5 dollars each time minus gas although i live 10 minutes from one of the hotels. I do like the products very much but for me i had an open mind and went with my gut and actually enjoy my success in this business. I am a very positive guy and had i listened to others i wouldnt have made this level. I will work toward a diamond level and if it takes me another 5-10 years so what i am only 32 then i can retire by what 42 or so. I do have a job in my life working as a computer technician and havent left my job but enjoy every minute of my success now. I have sponsored over 45 people so far in almost 2 years and to be honest only 8 have gone either platinum or ruby and 1 is an emerald. Like every business it takes alot of time but for me the work i put into it was easy because i wasnt there to convince anyone of anything.

I will say it dont work for alot of people but for some of us it did and i am grateful that i became a member and the funny thing is the guy who sponsored me well i make more then him so the pyramid thing lol is not true in this case for this business.

In a job you work in a pyramid i know that in a job you cant really retire not in the way our country is today. I dont like to be bossed around by my employer and quite frankly yes you do get a paycheck but it can be gone in an instant which is called layoffs etccc.

I love people that criticize things because some people are so close minded its really pathetic. I will be straight i didnt get rich off this business which i said earlier but ive have done pretty good up to today and continue to strive to the next level which is a ruby and again not going to say its going to be easy but i am going to do it.

People that are negative in life makes me sick really thats why everyone around me act like winners they are positive unlike some people who stay with their friends who are broke and tell them hey there is no chance of succeeding in this business really give me a break.

Really think about it the cost of this business is as follows ok because this is what i spend on an average each month.

First of all it was 144 dollars to start and i received about 80 dollars worth of items i use and enjoy in my household. I buy some cds but mostly copy them that was about what 20 dollars a month lets see i have my website thats another 20 dollars a month with my free business cards ok. I go to about 3 meetings a month another what 20 dollars. So let me see thats about what 60 dollars a month then i buy the things i enjoy in my household around 300-400 dollars so thats what 460 give or take well i make now about 3k roughly so im ahead about 2,500 lets say each month i dont know about you but thats ok for me and really it is part time i do this about 16-20 hours a week and set up about 12-16 meetings per week showing the plan. I forgot i also have registered for communicate which is a great tool another 38 dollars a month thats it where are all these other numbers coming from at least thats why i spend.

I am not here to tell everyone it works all i am saying is really iy dont work for alot of people i just did ok and im grateful.

tony   brandon, fl

1:47pm on Monday, April 14th, 2008 

A coworker showed me the Quixtar catalog for the XS energy drinks and some other stuff he has. I happen to be a distributer for 4Life Research. We have a product called Transfer Factor Plus which has been proven to increase your immune system NK cells by 437%. It is patented until 2023 with 44 patents pending. It is something remarkable. Magic Johnson takes a product called IP6 which is an immune system booster. It costs thousands for an injection. It only raises your immune system by 49% compared too TF Plus which is 437%.

We now have a drink named Riovida. It has MonaVie's favorite acai berry, pomegranites, blueberries, elderberries, and grapes in it along with lactoferrin (a natural antibiotic), and the immunity power of Transfer Factor.

Of course, we are not related to MonaVie or Quixtar or Noni Juice, but none of these companies have a single product that compares to Riovida or Transfer Factor Plus.

So I say "Join now, before your MLM company goes bye bye."

Denise   Midwest

10:27pm on Saturday, April 12th, 2008 

I've been shown the plan by zealous family members. I know that it wouldn't work for me because I just couldn't justify the cost for all the stuff. If Iwasn't willing to buy it, how could I honestly try to persuade others to buy it. (And yes, I have tried many of the products.)

Recently Met an IBO--"Emerald"   NOYB (None of your business) OK. Bklyn,

8:25pm on Saturday, April 12th, 2008 

After reading much of the actual website and what people had to say, I am torn between my headstrong mind and fear or doubt. More people had bad things to say than good. That doesn't surprise me for a couple of reasons.

One reason is many people are already brainwashed when it comes to getting a job (well this is not a job--think of yourself as an actual business). Most people don’t really want a job. They want income. As an American society we were taught to go to college and get a "good job". Don’t you see that while going to college might be a good thing doesn't always yield a "good job" -- one where you can have 'real' peace of mind? There are handfuls of really rich people vs. the working poor. And no, they don’t want you to make more money than them, because if you did you would stop working for them and work for yourself.

So I have always been open-minded about that. I suppose most skeptics reading this now are thinking "You are the perfect candidate or 'sucker' for this BIZ.”

I have oftener wondered while on interviews, how much money does this job really generate--i.e. and just what would be the percentage offered to me? If most people would do research and know exactly how much their actual jobs are generating minus how much it costs the company to have you with them, perhaps most would demand much more money than what the company decides to offer.

That being said, pyramid schemes have a bad rap, and so they should. However, I am not so convinced that this is a direct pyramid scheme. I will find out more about IBO's buying the products. I guess the CEO of McDonalds must enjoy every single product the company makes in order to endorse it. That makes sense.

omi07   tx

11:30pm on Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 

hahah, all i can do i laugh at these quixtar people...i love that last comment of yours joe from texas...thats so right...these two fools that were so crazy after getting me and my parents into it kept on bashing having a job or getting a job, and kept on telling us if you get into quixtar you wont need a job. But the truth was this scam of a company gets a portion of its earnings from the lame "motivational cd's and books" they first told us this business requires NO INVESTMENT FROM YOU...NO MONEY INVOLVED. I researched and asked them what it ivolves in the long run and then they were like yeh you have to buy these things very often and go to those cult like gatherings in hotels and meetings. Heck, its so simple...to buy and spend on all this trash you HAVE to have some kind of income...and so did this fool who came up to us...he still hasnt left his job! hahah talk about being a hypocrite.

Joe   Texas

7:27pm on Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 

Nobody said quixtar doesn't work. Quixtar is profitable for the owners of quixtar and a handful of old time IBOs who make a fortune selling tapes and seminars. Nearly all of the rest of you IBO's are losing your shirts paying for meetings and driving around looking for suckers to sign up.

Yes, a job or company may have a pyramid organizational chart, but at the end of the month, all of the employees got paid and have a net gain. In quixtar, most IBO's are spending money on overpriced junk and a few uplines rake in the cash.

I bet many of you here posting all the fluffy stuff about quixtar are actually losing money but pretending to be successful because your upline taught you to fake it. It's ok, you can admit it, the facts are there. No need to lie. Most of us here see right through you anyway.

Ironically, many of you who bash jobs have one - to suppport your quixtar addiction.

joel   ca

1:37pm on Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 

Rock on brian,li. Mr. Negative (Brian, Phoenix), just hasn't gotten it. Up to him if he will. Quixtar/Amway is the most honest and fair business opportunities out there. It is is self dependent on the indivual, depending on their goals and commitment to themselves. Love the training, association with positive people, and the personal growth that we shall undertake if we are to be successful in anything we do. Rock on Quixtar/Amway IBOS. -Velocity Enterprises, CEO-

bdoug   nj

5:22pm on Monday, April 7th, 2008 

you guys make me laugh you know absolutely nothing about this business ive made some good money and by the way dude it is residual. The problem is most people listen to their broke friends and that is why they stay broke. I know i am doing just fine and it does just nicely for me and my buddy who i just signed up. The onlt pyramid is in peoples brains if it were a pyramid id be making more then about 4 people i sponsored which by the way they make more then me and are in emerald qualification. The only pyramid in life is your job my friend take a look at your job working for an employer get real get laidodd its called a recession our business a recession dont affect me one bit but to the worker at a job it does big time. Its funny how people who come in here think they know it all because ever think maybe it just didnt work for them because they were lazy think about it 80% of the people in the world are average. I know i am doing quite well and really to me thats all that matters and the people i signed up are doing quite well good luck though in your job lol

omi07   tx

7:00am on Saturday, April 5th, 2008 

this couple approached my parents once, and they seduced my parents this pyramid scheme...they made them believe how good of an opportunity this is to make a residual income...how they won't have to work till their older and they can relax and have a steady income. These people said please come to this meeting and see for yourself...then this fool called me up an tried convincing me. I'm like lets go see what the heck this really is. I go to the meeting, and i swear i felt like i was in a cult gathering...i wanted to get up and leave right away...their products are right around the same price if not more expensive than the competitor...not to mention you have to buy them online only. My parents were required to pay a deposit, and they did because i didnt know of what was going on....so when i did find out, i did my research and found out how much of a scam this crap really is. Thank God i convinced my parents to walk away, and when my parents told the uplines aka boss lol that they dont want to do this anymore...i swear these people became like leeches and wouldnt leave us alone...they were bringing over people to convince us otherwise...they used the line your son went to college and spent thousands of dollars and will work in the corporate world where he can get fired anytime...they were downplaying my college education!! are u freaking kidding me?!?! these fools were telling my parents to put the business that they do have right aside...and work on this quixtar crap...go to like 2 mandatory meetings a week plus any the upline conducts...they say it will only take 2 hrs out of ur day...when they make u sit down and listen to their trash for HOURS!!!! I stopped picking up this guy's calls and he tells my parents that he got hurt...screw you! lol...my parents finally realized how much of a scam this really is and they nicely walked away...yeh their registration fee went to waste but at least they walked away from wasting A LOT more money on cd's books meeting and seminars (one of quixtar's main income channels)...

I say to people....if anyone approached you about joining quixstar..dont be rude, smile, punch them in the face, and walk away hahah...nawww, just run the other way man...there are plenty of better and legit ways to make money in this world...be safe stay away.

brian   li

10:31pm on Wednesday, March 26th, 2008 

by the way i never said it was great i said it was an opportunity period thats it. It is great for some of my friends as well as myself. There are many people that really dont believe in things other then 1 thing a job please what does a job give you. You can get laid off fired a company can merge then what its unemployment time thank God i for 1 have never worked for a job getting paid weekly or biweekly. I am only bashing negative people period thats why 80% of the population work for an employer. Wait a minute let me get my alarm clock i dont have to worry about those things. Sure i went to college got a masters degree but really where does it get you to be honest you talk about thousands of dollars lol how about 75k for college and a masters degree. I dont know where you spend so much money who gives you these figures like thousands of dollars. I buy some things but mostly have customers by many things from my website which is giving me residual income the problem is most people will never have residual you sure dont get this ina job thats called linear income. Its funny how people talk about what 8 products out of hundreds. Oh by the way barnes and noble circuit city models sports authority ibm microsoft dell i guess all these companies must be lousy since they work with us. Try looking under google sucks or microsoft sucks and see how many hits they have in the negative category we only have what 13800 alot less then all the other companies. Listen it dont work for a lot of people but some it does let people decide for themselves if they want to join everyone has a mind of its own. Its funny we have been around for 50 years a billion dollar industry but yet we get bashed really amazing. The majority of people i know like energy drinks and vitamins it works for me and my friends really all that matters anyway. Keep working for a job see where it gets you its called nowhere the new retirement age 72 thats a fact. Its funny i have a friend who is a suffolk police officer he has a guaranteed job then he tells me he is going to retire his income is 120k now he will get half pay for the rest of his life which is 60k which after taxes is like 30k this is a so called job i feel sorry for him because now he has to go out and get another job work 2 jobs for a while. The facts are as long as you work for an employer you really wont get anywhere. People in jobs if they knew anything they would be rich today. The reality is you cant get the wrong people to do the right thing in life. Ego will get you broke submission will get you rich.

Dont let obstacles get in the way of your success.
Dont listen to your broke friends in life thats what is really funny.

Linear income take your time and trade it for other peoples dollars you only have 24 hours in a day

Residual Income repeat income money comes in forever all the time. Poor people stop working they dont get paid thats a fact.

Rich get richer the medicore get poorer.

Well good luck in life i hope it works out for you and everyone is happy in their job by the way social security will be gone by 2041 medicare by 2019 those are facts as well.

brian   li

7:53pm on Wednesday, March 26th, 2008 

i didnt know mr negative is name calling where do you come from lol. Listen it works for me i really dont care who else it works for period as long as i bring in new ibos and customers to my site. I am just tired of people putting down things they know nothing about only what they read. It has done ok for me i didnt say id be rich im comfortable. If you continue working in a job you wont get anywhere in life and you can tell it to all the bear stearns employees who are now jobless in case you noticed as well as the other financial tycoon lehman brothers who just laid off my friend who was making a high 6 figure income he is now jobless.

These are the facts when you work for an employer you my friend are in a PYRAMID you will never make what the ceo or cfo make and those are the facts. In this business the person who sponsored me doesnt make more then me for your information which is why i say this is no pyramid. My friend vinnie pappalano he brings in a residual income of 51k a month which is a fact as well as my other friend charlie durso who brings in an average of 40k a month so it works for the very few but it does work thank you. Keep working for an employer and see where you get its called cant retire until 72 those are the facts

Brian   Phoenix

3:55pm on Wednesday, March 26th, 2008 

Thanks for the laugh Brian from LI. You said you like the energy drinks? That's fine but how does that make them a necessity in everyday life? It doesn't. You said people need Quixtar products and that's NOT true.

Sure Amway/Quixtar is a multi-million dollar company, that doesn't mean IBO's are.

Seems to me if you made 125K last year, you wouldn't be so defensive, about it. You wouldn't have to resort to name calling, and assuming.

You can try to bash me, you can try to put me down if it makes you feel better. And I know that's why IBO's feel the need to bash critics. It's because we make much more money than you, and you can't stand it. You can't stand the fact that we're right, and all the people that have told you Quixtar/Amway is not a good way to financial freedom are right.

I'm just curious how many of the same people are posting on here under different names to try to make it seem like Quixtar/Amway is so great. Because either you're all programmed the same or you all share the same brain. Amazing how you all use the same techniques and defenses. Also amazing how so many of you use the same name calling routine, like "dream killer" or "mr. negative."

Sorry bub, I live in the real world. I'm a realistic person. I have a solid base, I don't have my head in the clouds. And most importantly I don't spend thousands of dollars each year, on tapes, CD's, motivational functions and rallies, and incredibly overpriced products.

Yeah I talked about some products, you have over 1 million. Give me a dozen AMWAY/QUIXTAR products that are competitively priced to a retailer.

brian   li

3:38am on Wednesday, March 26th, 2008 

like i said mr negative i have nothing to prove to you brian from phenoix again bashing a company that makes milions. You are probably someone that lives in a cave in the woods trying to bash peoples dreams. You talk about some products we have over 1 million. I have proven i am in ruby qualification took me almost 2 years but im getting there. I am not going to work until i am 72 living paycheck to paycheck like most. You call it a dream well my dream is coming true mr negative. Wake up and get a life and stop bashing peoples businesses. They are a billion dollar business if they were so bad they would be out of business. I happen to like energy drinks and there are loads of people who drink them just because you dont really doesnt make it no good as well as vitamins which do work for me. You need to get a life and you use all these statistics if i listened to statistics all my life i wouldnt be where i am today. It works for the people that put the time into it i have made over 125k so far and there that is a fact mr negative i only made 43k my first year but now i have made over 125k between may and now just by doing the things i do. I neevr asked your opinion and no i am not kidding like i said you live in a cave get lost and stop bashing peoples dreams. I suppose you bash the book the secret as well that it cant work right typical negative man or boy i might add

Brian   Phoenix

11:39am on Tuesday, March 25th, 2008 

LOL! Brian from LI are you kidding me?

You said "Quixtars business model is desgined to sell products that really work to people that really need them at really fair and reasonable prices."

Reasonable prices? $14 for aftershave? $20 for a disposible razor? $8 for shaving cream? Those are reasonable prices? What about $9.60 for a 10.5oz bottle of shampoo? Boy oh boy, Walmart has nothing on Quixtar LOL!

Quixtar sells products that people REALLY NEED? Like what? XS energy drinks? People don't NEED energy drinks, nor do they need vitamins and supplements.

You Quixtar IBO's constantly, and I mean CONSTANTLY, try and compare yourself and your products to Walmart. You constantly BASH Walmart, and yet, I See so many Quixtar IBO's trying to "prospect" people at Walmart. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. WHy try and recruit people, who shop at Walmart? Obviously those people are not shopping at Walmart for overpriced products.
That's like an owner of a 5 star restaurant, who sells an $80 steak, going into McDonald's to get people to eat at his restaurant.

You want to compare Quixtar to a convenient store? Again, terrible comparison. How convenient is Quixtar? I'm out of paper towels, or toilet paper. I can either go 2 minutes up the street and grab a roll of TP, or I can place my order through Amway/Quixtar and anxiously wait for the box to arrive.

Jeremy from WV I'm glad that Quixtar is "way cooler" than Tupperware or Avon, but facts are facts. 99.9% of IBO's don't make any money, and most of them lose money.

I love hearing about how "I know a guy, who knows a guy who made millions. My upline has a masnion. My uncle and aunt are filthy rich." etc etc etc.

I want somebody to PROVE to me that it's happened for THEM. I also want a Quixtar IBO to give me proof that Quixtar/Amway works if you put the time and effort (and of course tons of $$$$) into it.

I know plenty of IBO's who have done EVERYTHING their upline has told them to do, read all the books, have a trunk load of CD's, and spend the waking hours of the evening, doing everything in their power just to make ends meat, selling a "dream". Meanwhile they are no closer, to making any real money, but they are on the verge on losing lots of money.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. A TRUE business owner sells PRODUCTS, where as a Quixtar IBO sells a "dream"
Sorry, dreams are great, but you're not paying bills or feeding yourself with dreams.

brian   li

2:03pm on Monday, March 24th, 2008 

when you think about all the money you've thrown away all these years buying stuff on impulse well you've got to laugh. I know one thing for sure the discount stores that sold you the stuff are laughing too all the way to the bank. The quixtar business model on the other hand isnt designed to enitce people into a store with loss leaders in order to sell people stuff they didnt plan on buying and likely dont need. Unlike discount stores Quixtars business model is desgined to sell products that really work to people that really need them at really fair and reasonable prices. That to me is a business midel worht building which i am on my way to great success so far. Now, i dont mean to sound like a walmart basher. Walmart is the best at what they do. They perfected the deep discount model and companies that try to compete directly with them on everyday low prices are in for trouble. Just ask kmart which recently filed for bankruptcy. Its foolish to try to compete with wal mart by adopting their discount model. The good news is that you dont have to. The key is to do what convenience stores do adopt a business model that offers intangibles that walmart CAN NEVER OFFER. Such as great service convenience opportunity or better yet all 3. Just as walmart executives dont sit around the conference table talking about how to compete with upscale business models like lord and taylor and tiffanys. Walmarts head honchos dont spend their time thinking up ways to turn their customers into independent business owners either why because the leadership at walmart is too busy worrying about their own business model towrry about quixtar and saks and circle k.

Randon Taylor   Las Vegas

3:47pm on Sunday, March 23rd, 2008 

Imo there are way better out there. Find a company that will offer the same product at a better price than what you get at the local walmart and you have a superior company. I personally couldn't care less about quality. I want to save money. Imo most people prefer cheap over quality. Look at walmart its definately not known for quality. Or even more obvious, mcdonalds. You'd be hard pressed to find a lower quality product, but it's cheap, AND you know what you're going to get.

Jeremy   wv

7:29am on Friday, March 21st, 2008 

I absolutely love Quixtar. I can't stand people that say it doesn't work. If you didn't make any money, it's because of your lack of work. I have never been told not one time that it's a get rich quick scheme. If anyone registered as an IBO told you it was they need reported to Quixtar so they can be corrected. I was told up front I will have to work to be successful. Actually, Quixtar is the same type of business as Tupperware, Avon, Pampered Chef, and so on just a lot cooler and I think way better. So if Quixtar's a scam than all the rest are too. My mom sold Tupperware and when I showed the IBO plan to her she got it right off. She said it's the same kind of payment plan as Tupperware only you have the potential to make a lot more money. And as for going to Quixtar major function, go to a Tupperware Rally, they are the same type function. I know people that do Avon and spend more in the catalogs that they pass out than they make and I don't see sites trashing Avon. I just know that people that say Quixtar doesn't work never sponsored anyone nor sold any products 7500PV=platinum=$2600+ a month period. If you do nothing you'll make nothing just like any other business in the world.

Trista   Canada

1:18pm on Thursday, March 20th, 2008

Very well said Bri. Encouraging as well. I look forward to the many benefits that Quixtar has to offer and if I feel that it isn't for me, then out I go. Though, I doubt that will happen. Thanks for the boost in confidence.

bri   li

9:34am on Thursday, March 20th, 2008

I thought another great thing about this business is that you can do it anywhere in almost any country which i think is super.

In your job can you just leave the state or city you are in and just move to another country or state id say odds are you can't unless you do have your own business whether it be this one or something else.

Becoming a platinum to me was so easy its pathetic. You make about 2800 a month on an average now if you are working in your job and you have this as well part time is that bad? I dont think so

I dont see why that would be a problem. Listen they have been trying to get us for a long time and have they i think not that is why we are still going making billions this industry and will be around for years to come.

As for me i know it works and i listen to no one especially their negative feedback about this business i am doing well so can you and if not its ok there are plenty of jobs out there isn't their.

If i listened to stats id be broke today its all about your mind and how you use it.

brian   li

9:29am on Thursday, March 20th, 2008 

here is how i see it. Do what you think is good? No one in life has a gun to someones head when making a decision. I have done well in this business so far and for me that is all that matters. If i listened to stats i wouldnt have joined and done well in this business. It is true some things in life don't work for everyone. I used to be around so many negative people i wanted to explode and told them that they think they know everything but yet they are broke. They listen to more of their broke friends which is really hilarious. I never said life is easy and everything takes time and hard work but as for me it took me a little while but i am almost at the level i want which is a ruby. I will go diamond in maybe another 2-4 years but so what as long as i make it really does it matter because it dont take you away from your day job and no one is telling anyone to quit their job. Lets look at life itself now look how many jobs are going down the drain take bear stearns and lehman brothers in nyc if you had a good job there guess what its gone in the business i have now which is quixtar it will be here for a long time. The people that are getting laid off have no outlet and no where to go other then the unemployment line which i chose not to go there. I think many businesses have their ups and downs but hey this is life it works for the people who want it to work its really a numbers game I mean i spoke to 8 people yesterday and 3 decided they want to be an ibo and 2 wanted to be customers the others said no which is ok i just say next in my mind and no hard feelings hope it works out for you whatever you choose in your life. In this business if you dont like people it wont work anyway. This business is financial freedom and if they were so bad they wouldnt have been around for 50 years hello people. You really have nothing to lose i have gained quite a bit in this business money, knowledge,good friends, and eventually residual income. Most people will work until the new retirement age which is 72 i dont plan on being the 80% of those people that can't retire. I know many people who have great businesses which is awesome i just happen to like this business for me its a win win. I wish the best for everyone who tried it or has tried something else that works for them in their life God bless.

Trista   Canada

10:00pm on Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

I didn't like putting my name as anonymous because I have nothing to hide. It was just some insecurities about what others think about me. Does it really matter what others think when I have Christ? Nope. Anywho, anyone got some more info on Quixtar in Europe as I will be going there in August. I hear that Quixtar and Amway are merging. It's going to be global now. What do you all think about that? Good for your businesses or not so good?

Anonymous   Canada

2:18pm on Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

Oh ya, about this whole brain-washing thing. I think that if someone is so mesmerized by the thought of getting rich quick, it's the love of money that brain washes them. Everyone has a mind of their own. All of us have choices and if we make the right ones then we will benefit. If wrong choices are made, then the outcome may not be so pleasant. Personally, I believe that having my brain washed by something positive is great. My brain is washed daily by the Truth. I am proud to say that I am brain washed by Christ. It was the best decision I have ever made. Therefore, I CHOOSE not to be mesmerized by the thought of what I might gain from Quixtar, but the thought of what OTHERS might gain from my involvement in Quixtar.

Anonymous   Canada

1:45pm on Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

Hello All,

I have just been registered with Quixtar believing that I can make a difference in people's lives with the success I hope to gain with this company. I don't know much about the company but what I do know is that I am not forced to do anything I don't want to do. Now that I have seen all these comments about how Quixtar is a scam, I have put some MORE thought in the decision I have made. I have come to the conclusion that I see no harm in trying. I see this as an opportunity to help other people.

I am a new baby Christian and I am here not to judge others and their decisions, but to encourage people to follow Christ. I know my Father is with me and will not let me be burdened with more than I can carry. I see a wonderful chance to help fellow Christians who don't have as much as I do and you know what? If I fail, I don't mind. My focus is not making millions of dollars, it's making millions of disciples. This is just a trial run and if I succeed, then all of it goes to God anyway. I am blessed and I hope everyone sees that they are too.

Anonymous   Location unknown

12:43pm on Tuesday, March 18th, 2008

some one special....THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nicely put :-)

some one special   seattle wa

4:05pm on Saturday, March 15th, 2008

I love how negative a lot of you people are being, you can succeed in quixtar my aunt and uncle did and because they succeed'd so well they are financially free from debt have a gorgous home and give back to the community so all you negative people why dont you call your upline and go out and try growing your business instead of crying

Brandon   IQ

9:22pm on Friday, March 14th, 2008 

Some of these people are so sad. If you are in Quixtar you have no common sense and what is worse the seeming lack of shopping sense. It takes about three seconds on the Quixtar website to realize the products are FAR overpriced. I wish that I could develop a gig where I could convince people to pay a higher price on items, and be happy about it. Wow what a sham. They are charging 17 dollars (not including S&H) on a 24 pack of bottled water. WOW. At wallmart 5-6 dollars. People talk about the quality. OK. Its water. If you are sucked in by this scam you are very, very, sad. You should do some research on the internet before you give some hard earned money to someone else. There really is a sucker born every SECOND.

brian   nyc

7:41am on Friday, March 14th, 2008 

Dan from Minola its interesting we live really near by i live in suffolk county and go to the meetings in the island every monday. Yes the stats say this but i dont look at stats much i have a mind of my own. I am not telling you what to do but i will tell you how i approach someone. I tell them i have an oppotuntity not a guarantee first of all. When i feel someone is not interested i dont keep pursuing people because its a waste of my time and in my mind i am like next next next its a numbers game. I dont tell people leave your job you can do both if you desire i do and it works for me and my business partner he is very credible. I stay around people that have done well go to dinner with them and ask questions to people that have succeeded. If you read everything about people who didnt make it you wont get anywhere thats them you have a mind of your own maybe it wasnt for them maybe they didnt have the drive you either have it or you dont. I spend this money anyway so for me there is no risk its actually a joke. I just bought books from barnes and noble about 3 a month i read i would buy it anyway if i went there so what risk is there. Yes its true not everyone spends 5 dollars for a toothpaste or likes energy drinks but those are just 2 things they have an awesome product line and really i make my money by customers and ibos buying things through my website in this business. I happen to be one who likes x/s not everyone does do people like pepsi or coke everyone in the world does everyone like hersheys no does everyone want to be a rock star no we all do things we enjoy in life and take a chance but really what chance for me its a win win business but for others i wish them the best in whatever they do. How can they be up to no good so the 800 companies that joined and work with them feel the same way. How do you see this listen you have a mind of your own why dont you go to the open meetings and team meetings more your friend is just trying to help you listen man i was the same way as you believe me i felt that way at first but then i saw what i am doing anyway and said wow it does work i get some that say no but then i set them up as a customer or ask for a referral which i did get 6 referrals from 6 people that became customers. This is not a get rich fast program maybe it will take 10 years or more for some but so what wouldnt it be nice after 10 years to make it you still have your job right no one tells you that well you better quit and do this. The people in this business dont quit their job until they get to a certain level. I love this business but you have to remember not everyone in life wants you to be happy but hey i wish the best for people in life life is tough and we have to do something that makes us feel good. I am a people person and i have no problem in someone making a killing in this business and i go diamond or even emerald. Listen if you make 1 million and i make 400000 it dont matter to me what matters to me is i achieved my goal and you did as well.

brian   nyc

7:27am on Friday, March 14th, 2008 

hello maria from nj how are you today. First of all Maria we dont guarantee you anything it is an opportunity you make it work for you if thats what you want to do. I have met many people in the 5 months now that i have been in this and it works for me but maybe not for the other party. I agree totallt with you and it does make sense. Yes its true there are stats in here that are not favoring but i agree scams are all over the place in life. I go to the opens and team meetings alot and listen the worst case scenerio is you just get smarter from reading some books which cost like what 6 bucks and cds that cost like what 7 dollars it only makes you smarter. Its funny i work in the police dept as well as real estate and this business but i plan on leaving my job in life very soon once i make ruby qualification i will leave. Its all about your mind listen everything takes time in life alot of people dont make it i agree but does it have to be you or me think about it. Remember success will never attack you. I understand alot of people are scared sceptical but hey life is about taking a risk. Hi Jill from kentucky yes it can be diffcult but not to get people i am not in this to get people i look for people that maybe want to make some extra money on the side. I think you need to sit down with the person that sponsored you because he is for sure not working with you enough. The reason no one is excited or interested is to me maybe your approach listen to more cds and get back to people that have been successful in this business listen i know its not alot of people stats wise but again do you want to be one of the people who quit something. Listen if its not for you its not for you period. Its funny my sponsor he is 27 he is going into emerald qualification he left his computer it field job making good money and decided to leave because of the hours he put in like 50 hours a week he is one of my closest friends i see the checks he does well but he works hard just talking to people he just shows the plan and gets results. Some people have a knack for this business and it comes a bit easy. I am the same way i look for people that want an opportunity. The only thing guaranteed in life is death and taxes and thats that lol. I was sceptical about this business i have a masters in business and a pretty good background in these type of business. As for me yes i spend 250 dollars a month big deal i spend about 500-600 a month already with my wife. I buy pretty much the same things i would ordinarily buy anyway its a joke really what are you spending if people have a brain they will see they are spending the same money. Examples i buy cereal, toilet paper, dish washing liquid and the 800 companies that work with us these sites i buy from them which is the same as the store. People just dont understand but its ok i am not here to tell a person what to do if its for you great if not ok do something that makes you happy for me and my wife it works. Hi Dan from Minola,well when you friend keeps pushing you its not good i just tell people what i have show the plan and thats it i am not going to chase people he must be new in this business. I know when someone is interested i dont waste my time constantly calling people that dont want it.

Maria   New Jersey

10:38pm on Thursday, March 13th, 2008 

I'm 19 years old, turning 20 soon. I want to be a teacher and I know the money is not great in the work force. My mom and I were told by two people that they had business programs (Quixtar) that they wanted to share with us, but we sent them away since we had already tried Avon. Then one of my good friends calls me and tells me she needs to talk to me, without my knowledge, I was informed about Quixtar. At first, I was very ignorant and rejected the idea. Nonetheless, my friend's parents are an example of the success of this program. They don't lie about the products, they are informed about the products and help you understand the benefits. That is the way a business owner benefits the society and his business.
I became an IBO of this business, a business that guarantees many things, but you must put effort. What kind of job doesn't require an input? I have a goal in mind, and that is to get people to gain money and become economically stable through good and legal means, just as my friend's parents. You can't blame one, two, five, or even ten people for something that has been working for thousands of people legally. My mind is set up like a lawyer's (since I was really good at debating with facts), but I am not going to give all facts too people to prove my point because after all, you probably have made your decision about this business already.
Where those all the money come from? Well, you see businesses closing everyday (they don't want to pay for employees, for medical insurance, for law suits, for maintaince, etc). These businesses search for companies like Quixtar, that has been successful for almost 50 years, and give the IBOs who spread the word the profit. So instead of paying for a lot of Ads and losing money (since people usually go to the bathroom during a commercial break) these companies pay the IBOs the money for their services. Doesn't it make sense? It's not a scam that thousands of people do; the scams are done by people who break the laws and then are punished. Scams are done in any business by other means, just think about it.

Dan   Mineola,NY

6:50pm on Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 

what to say, what to say. im extreamly skeptical about this. I will end up not joining but my persistant friend keeps pushing and pushing. after reading this and some selected responses, I noticed that tha people who disagreed with us ( saying quixtar is worth it ) really had no backup facts. other than tha millions and bajillions of dollars they made per second of every waking day. complete nonsense if you ask me. any company that asks me for a $250 deposit BEFORE I start working, is most deffinatley up to no good. care to talk more, IM me on AIM: papasmurfolife

Jill   Kentucky

1:14pm on Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 

Hello all! My husband and I recently joined Quixtar and have found it very difficult to get people excited and involved in this product/opportunity! Can anyone give us advise? Do we get out now or continue to try for a few more weeks. We have called everyone on our list and NO ONE is interested! Those of you who are successful how did you do it!

Quixtar Rocks   ???

10:17am on Monday, March 10th, 2008 

Im 21 and have been in for 4 months........should reach platinum in 3 months....making about an extra 1300 a month.....now what

Brian   Phoenix

2:33pm on Thursday, March 6th, 2008 

Brian from NY, why do you constantly say "if everyone thought like me, nobody would be anywhere". How do I think? Quixtar's statistics are based on the AVERAGE IBO. That doesn't mean I think like the average person. It also doesn't make me a negative thinker.

Do you think I got into my business to make $20,000 a year? $50,000 a year? Do you think I wasn't motivated to start my own business, make my own hours and make my own decisions as to what would be best for myself and my business?

Look man, it's like this. Not all IBO's are bad, but most of them practice deception and it's not their fault. They do what they're told to do.
There are way too many limitations on IBO's in Quixtar/Amway.
The fact that the products are overpriced or, at least not competitive, is a big problem. The fact that an IBO can't sell his/her products in a store, online, or have a display is another limitation.
If the emphasis in this "business" was more on retailing products, at a competitive price, rather than, recruiting other IBO's it might not be so bad. But the fact is, many of the big pins make 50%-75% of their income on CD's, tapes, and speaking engagements. An IBO doesn't tell the prospect about the "tape and tool" income, either because they don't know about it, or because they know it would chase the prospect away.

Like I've said before, I don't wish for IBO's to fail, not at all, I wish you guys, and gals, nothing but the best. All I want is for people to be aware of what they're getting themsleves into.
I want them to research matters on Amway/Quixtar.

It just amazes me how, at least when I'm prospected, (and I always let them give me their schpiel) an IBO always tells me I only have to work 10-15 hours a week for 2-5 years to make millions. Then, later hear all kinds of IBO's say "People are lazy, and they don't work hard enough". Well which is it?

I hear "You get out of it what you put into it". Well that's probably more accurate. So why don't IBO's come right out and say; "Hi I'm (insert name) I am involved with Amway/Quixtar and I really enjoy what I do. Would you like an opportunity to make some extar $$$? Depending on how hard you work, you can make some serious money. If you're willing to listen to tapes, CD's, read books, attend speaking engagements, and attend weekly meetings, plus work 30-40 hours a week showing others how to make money, you could earn some serious cash over the next 10-15 years."

Doesn't that sound more realistic? I think that's more realistic, but it certainly doesn't sound as appealing as "10-15 in 2-5 years".
In my opinion, until Amway/Quixtar focuses on the retailing aspect of the "business" and gets away from the motivational and recruiting aspect, it'll never be a great opportunity.

The whole thing with the "average" is that many people are average, and Quixtar/Amway is supposed to benefit the AVERAGE person who can't afford the overhead and expenses that come with owning a business. Quixtar/Amway is supposed to give people without a college education, or even a high school education a chance to make millions.

Some things just are the way they are, Brina from NY. Many people are average, and that's just the way life is, perhaps this is why I always refer to the average. I mean I go by Quixtar's stats. How would you like me to post them? My source is Quixtar itself. How does that make me negative when I take the statistics right from thisbiznow.com? If the statistics are negative how can you blame me? I just post them, I don't make them.

Like I said, I wish nothing but the best for everyone. Quixtar is for some people. I never said it wasn't for anyone. It's just not likely anyone will make any money and Quixtar's statistics prove it.
I read somewhere that in 2006 Quixtar broke 178 Diamonds, and in 2007 they only broke 67.
It is an opportunity, but so is winning the lottery. That doesn't mean I'd like to spend $500 a month on lotto tickets. I don't know what you want me to say Brian from NY. All I do is list statistics and speak of my personal experiences.

I've been to open meetings before, I've talked to numerous IBO's and numerous prospects. Of course, you guys/gals will always say people like me are "negative" and you IBO's have to focus on the positive. It would probably be a lot easier to focus on the positive of Amway/Quixtar if their was more positive than negative, unfortunately, that's not the case.

brian   nyc

5:50am on Thursday, March 6th, 2008 

there you go again with average brian from phoenix do you always think average.Listen we all have a right to our opinion i never tell people they have to join if you want to fine if not no problem because its a numbers game period and by the way our company is called ALTICOR although i know plenty of people that made it in amway as well. You can be a realist but if everyone thought like you no one would ever be successful or take a chance. Its no risk to you i have a friend in this business he spends about 250 dollars on his items from a tv to a vcr to food to energy drinks but he has alot of customers that buy things from his site which generates a pretty decent income part time around 1750 he does not spend 1000 a month lol at least i dont anyway i spend around 300-400 a month and my return is alot more so for me its a win win. I am not telling anyone to come into this business if its for you great if its not do what you like plain and simple. I enjoy the things i get paid for and not everything is the same price yes true there are things more but if you do your research there are things the same price as the store but i dont have to wait on a stupid line during the holidays or spend money on gas which by the way is a writeoff on my expenses including everything i spend on cds and meetings. I only go to 3 meetings a month which costs me 18 dollars total and i buy like 2 cds a week which is like 10 dollars a week so for the month i spend maybe 60 dollars if that with my 340 say thats 400 a month not 1000 by the way and i dont think about average people because if everyone thought average no one would get anywhere in life. I am not a believer in stats thats just me we all have a right to our opinion so brian from phenoix may all your dreams and goals come true good luck i hope it works out for you. I am one of the lucky ones i just showed 2 plans last night they want to be a customer the other an ibo i mean sometimes youll meet people that are really ambitious and sometimes they realize its not for them. I have a job in life i work for a real estate firm which im kind of happy about because i do well with my wife but if you want to talk about stats the average real estate agent really stats wise is rather low as well but i just love what i do in life. You do have great mentors in this business and its nice that people help people try to achieve their goals. Not everyone wants to make a fortune in this business I had someone tell me they would like to make 10k a year and they would be happy part time and they would still have their full time job i said ok lets get started no one said this was an easy business very difficult but i love challenges and i want to prove to myself that i think for me stats are just what they are stats. I am me and we all have different minds. For me to be honest i really dont care about the name i care about the concept this is a family business and with the right people you can make it in this business. I think in life we have to grow and think for ourselves. It is true one person said its a waste of time to talk in here and i actually think he is right i do have better things to do which im going to do and i wish you the best brian from phenoix and respect your opinion thank you for making me even more motivated to do what i need to do good luck and God bless

Jeff   Minneapolis

3:28pm on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008

I've lurked here for the last couple days, and I find the dialog both disturbing and fascinating. I gave my honest opinion and thought I would leave it at that, but after reading some of the postings, now I must speak.

As most of you are no doubt aware, there is a consumer watchdog site called ripoffreport, and Quixtar is represented there as well. The dialog is similar, in that people that felt they were taken for a ride (please note that I said ‘felt’, and not ‘provided absolute proof beyond a shadow of a doubt’) spoke out against Quixtar, and those already involved were fiercely protective of it.

This overwhelming reaction has pointed me in one direction really, and that is most of the Quixtar membership population has a hive mentality, a safety-in-numbers sort of feeling with respect to those who are all involved. Whether or not members are coached to behave a certain way (as was suggested) or not, perhaps certain personality types just tend to gravitate towards this sort of business. Most of the people who have been quite aggressive in defending the business have been very reactionary, very emotional, very argumentative, and have not expressed themselves or their points in a clear, logical, mature fashion. True, those opposed have been equally argumentative, but their points have been valid, their questions are reasonable and they have not been challenged – only belittled. I agree with Brian from Phoenix in that this behavior is not at all consistent with what I would expect from someone who is proud of what they are doing, and believes in it through and through. I suspect it is driven by insecurities and the fear of failure, backing out, being wrong, choosing a different direction, or simply afraid of what other people think.

Despite any facts about income levels or business practices, this is precisely why I refuse to go anywhere near this company. At the end of the day, it just does not feel *right*, and I don’t want to be involved or even associated with these kinds of behaviors. There is something very artificial about the entire experience, and I was scared away pretty easily.

Take these comments for whatever you wish, call me negative, call me what you want. I’m no longer reviewing it, and nor do I hope to dissuade anyone from giving it a try. I would however, like to part with a question if someone involved would care to answer in a straightforward and honest manner- To what degree of research, scrutiny, and systematic reasoning did you apply when evaluating this opportunity?

Scott   Wisconsin

3:03pm on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 

Hello,
I was searching for information related to how the Quixtar "Smart Menu" meals are packaged (I am a customer of my son) when I came across this page. Curiosity got the better of me and I read a few postings...then I read them all. I have to say that it seems odd for all of you to spend, what seems like an inordinate amount of time discussing semantics, or opinions which obviously vary from person to person.

Brian from Pheonix (or NY, hard to tell who was who), your Quixtar Affiliated IBO'ship must not be doing as well as you claim to have such "thin skin" (i.e. "...thou doest protest too much..."), or, you have succeeded to a level which allows you the time. Nonetheless, it matters not what anyone else says about your business. Get back to work.

Brian from NY (or Pheonix, ..."); the Quixtar/Amway Opportunity (as Toyota/Lexus) is just that,...an opportunity. One must weigh the benefits and cost, and decide for themselves. It is good that you wish the best of success to those IBO's, your fellow citizens trudging through life as best they can, or have been taught. Take that fact, extend greetings, and go about selling whatever you are selling.

For a little perspective; I just spent nearly ten thousand dollars of my time (if I was invoicing myself) to write this note. We are all given but a short time to live...please, do not waste it. I have yet to hear of a dying man's last words as, "I wish I had spent more time arguing!"

Humbly, ...the protectionist

Brian   Phoenix

1:44pm on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 

Yeah, whatever you say anonymous. Brian from NY has "good common sense".

I think anyone with common sense would realize, that a "business" with a 99% failure rate is not a good investment.

Anonymous   Location unknown

9:06am on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 

Brian from NYC, I could not agree with you more. I'm very pleased to see that someone with some belief and good common sense has finally contributed to this blog. Good luck with your business! With your positive attitude and undying belief, your business is sure to succeed! Quixtar all the way!!

Brian   Phoenix

8:13am on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 

Brian, Brian, Brian. How many contradictions are in your statements? You say the average worker will retire at 72, you say the average worker this and the average worker that. Yet when it come to Quixtar WHICH IS AMWAY. (Get that through your head man. Do you think guys like Bill Britt, joined Quixtar in 1999? You don't think guys like Dexter Yager and Larry Winters were around when Amway became Quixtar in North America?
For someone being in Ruby qualification, and someone who reads so much, you really don't know much about your supplier do you?)

Anyway, youspeak about the average worker, yet when you talk about Quixtar/Amway, the averages and statistics don't seem to matter. Kind of funny how you twist those things in your favor. You also say "I don't care about 99% of people failing because I know how what it does for me". Huh, I thought one of the big selling points of Quixtar IBO's was the fact that they were giving people a "great opportunity" yet you state that you don't care about anyone but yourself. Pretty selfish attitude if you ask me.

You can call me negative all you want. Fact is I'm a realist, and if the real world has negative aspects, so be it, we have to live with it. Negative, or not, facts are facts. I've NEVER stated it was impossible to get rich in Quixtar, I've simply stated facts, the same facts, over and over and over again. It is possible, but very, very unlikely.

You mention the 6.8 billion dollars in sales. Yeah, that's awesome for QUIXTAR/AMWAY. Too bad 6.568 BILLION of that is sold to IBO's, and only 220 Million is of that is sold to RETAIL customers. See, Quixtar/Amway make a boat load of money, and nobody is denying that The Van Andel's and The Devos's are filthy rich at the expense of IBO's.

You're successful? Good for you Brian, I'm happy for you. You're one of the few that has found success in the Quixtar/Amway "business". You're one of, the less than 1%, that has actually succeeded.

I appreciate you answering my questions on how much you spend on books, tapes, rallies, meetings etc. You said you spend about 1,000 a MONTH. The average IBO makes $1,400 a YEAR. So if an IBO follows your direction, but still doesn't see results (which is very possible because there are NO guarantees in Quixtar/Amway) (s)he spends $12,000 a year just on motivational materials and, if they even make the average of $1,400 a year. That means they've LOST $10,600 in a year. That doesn't include, the products they buy at higher prices (higher quality or not, the prices are still incredibly high). It doesn't include fuel for you vehicle, travel time, milage or hours showing the "plan"

Let me go into the prices for a second. Just a few examples. I have to shave frequently, therefore razors, shaving cream, and after shave are things I use quite often. Now, I can go to Walmart and buy a Gillette, Mach 3 razor for $7.99, Aqua Velva aftershave for $3.49 and Edge shaving Gel 2/$5.00. The total, after tax is around $18.
Now, at Quixtar/Amway, I can buy Tolsom shaving cream for $12.45, Tolsom aftershave for $14.00 and the Quixtar/Amway disposible razor for $20. After tax that total is around $50. Not to mention I only get one can of shaving cream, and I have to wait for it to arrive at my door. Either way, that's an extra $32 I have to spend to buy products through my "business". Seems to me if I actually owned my own business, I'd be able to buy such products for a much lesser, or even competitive price.

Glister Toothpaste is garbage. Like I said, it's not recommended by the ADA so how is it even possible that it is better than Crest, Colgate, Aqua Fresh or whatever other toothpastes are out there for half the price of Glister?

You think I'm a negative thinker, I thnk I'm a realist. You think Amway/Quixtar is a good opportunity, I think it isn't. Differening opinions does not make me a negative thinker. My opinions are based solely on FACTS. And once again I'll list the FACTS about Amway/Quixtar

- Average "ACTIVE" IBO makes $1400 a year GROSS
- 66% of IBO's are found to be "active" (meaning they've attended at least one meeting or bought product from Quixtar/Amway over the past year). include all IBO's and the average income is around $77 a month or $925 a year GROSS.
- Working the 10-15 hours IBO's say, you only have to work to be successful (it ends up to be much more) that would equate to between $1.28-$1.95 an hour (before taxes and expenses)
- 66% of IBO's drop out each year. All this means is that if you sponsor 100 people you're likely to have to replace more than 1 IBO a week to stay at your pin level. So much for residual income.
- Only .4% (1 in 240) will reach Platinum Qualification
- Only .001% (1 in 14,000) will reach Diamond Quailification.
- 99% of all IBO's will not make any money from Quixtar/Amway

The source, for all of my facts are from QUIXTAR itself.

One last thing Brian, from NY. When you "prospect" IBO's are you up front with them? Do you actually tell them what you do, or do you snake around the truth? Do you tell people you're affiliated with Quixtar before you start drawing circles on a white board?

Finally, here's the difference between an IBO, for Quixtar/Amway, and a TRUE business OWNER. An IBO sells a "dream" a "business" and an "opportunity" a TRUE business owner sells actual PRODUCTS.

brian   nyc

9:20pm on Tuesday, March 4th, 2008 

how to succeed in the business well with minds like yours for sure there is no chance. I spend around 7 dollars for each cd which is around id say maybe 35 dollars a month books whats wrong with buying books like think and grow rich by napoleon hill or the magic of thinking big but of course you wouldnt know what im talking about anyway which is funny actually. Why cant a guy have motivation if its going to bring me alot of money and that is what inspires me whats it to you like i said a negative guy will always try to knock a business. You are a negative thinker by the way who tells me this your actions and other peoples actions when one says a person cant succeed what does that mean it isnt positive. Listen here are some stats for you the average workers in life that lives paycheck to paycheck cant retire until 72 which wont be me thats the first thing. You can get fired, laid off in a job how can you compare a labor linear income to owning your own business please give me a break like i said most people can live paycheck to paycheck slumping around doing nothing with their life i like to be inspired and if it inspires me thats my business mr negative. Why do i need to advertise and besides its a 6.4 billion dollar business why change something that is working please give me a break we dont need to advertise on tv we are doing just fine for your information alot better then working in a job going nowhere. Where do you get off saying we are amway you know nothing about business first of all amway by the way did well for some people amway never had 800 companies like ibm and microsoft to back us up. For you information if i thought like you i wouldnt be doing so well in life thank God i dont have to have people like you around me because if i did id live like a average person never thinking big thank the Lord im not around negative energy. For you info glister is better then both for me anyway thats the first thing centrum sucks period id rather spend more money on something good and by the way im not tired since i take these for me thats a proven fact. Also for your information we are spending a billion dollars advertising jan 1 2010 its funny how people continue to knock a business they were never in to begin with and like i said its not for everyoone and im not telling anyone to join me but for me getting the people i need wont be hard because i only need a certain amount of people and we have alone like what 8 million people in nyc the stats favor me thank you very much and no one can bring me down because when a person is motivated and positive a person can say anything but for me its all in the mind positive energy brings positive results. I am in ruby qualification on my way down the road to being a diamond. I dont believe in statistics because on every given day someone can be a hero. I am not into sports because i dont watch people get rich i want to get to be rich people who watch sports all day watching people keep making money while the average worker lives paycheck to paycheck is not my idea of a good life. I dont care about 99% of the people who dont make it thats them i know who i am. It is also not likely that the average worker will get anywhere in life. I dont want to have to worry like an average worker about paying a bill or worry about the mortgage or worry about a company merging and you losing your job. You can work 100000 hours in your lifetime over a what 30 year period ill work alot less and make a whole lot more. I dont just do this business for your information my wife and i are successful real estate agents as well. I suppose you are going to tell me stats like only 1 in a million are successful well at least there is an area that stats mean nothing at all to me. I pay 1000 a month to get coached and motivated by the best and that is why im doing well the stats of my income prove it but anyway i feel im wasting my time talking to negative people so GOOD LUCK IN YOUR JOB FOR THE NEXT 40 YEARS WHEN YOU CAN RETIRE AT AGE 72 GOODBYE

Anonymous   Location unknown

8:19am on Tuesday, March 4th, 2008

blah blah blah.

Jeff   Minneapolis

12:18am on Tuesday, March 4th, 2008 

I was solicited by a Quixtar rep. He was polite, well spoken, and extremely vague. In order to learn more, I had to attend a meeting at a hotel. That presentation was more informative and highly motivational, but didn't give me a sense of comfort concerning what the business opportunity was, other than selling the business idea to friends/family/anyone who will listen. I found this blog during a search for information. What I found in my research, as well as in some of the comments here, was consistent with what I intuitively felt- success in this business is very unlikely.

Perhaps I did not adequately follow the presentation, and I readily admit I don't have any experience in MLM or marketing, but I find it quite difficult to believe that a fantastic profit can be had by essentially following directions. In my opinion, there is little to distinguish this opportunity from countless other offers promising the same income potential.

Best wishes if you decide to try it, but it's not for me.

Brian   Phoenix

2:54pm on Monday, March 3rd, 2008 

Excellent retort there, anonymous. That'll certainly convince prospective IBO's that Quixtar/Amway is a legitimate "business" opportunity.
Then again, I'd expect nothing less.