The Power 4 Patriots system is a new guide from Frank Bates, who says that anyone, regardless of skill or knowledge, can use his system to create their own home electrical system and slash their current bill by 75%.
According to his website, Bates says that electricity monopolies and government agencies are “incompetent, lying crooks” who are keeping your heating bills “criminally high,” but that you have the ability to change that.
The Power 4 Patriots system claims to be 100% legal and will work even for people who don’t have a lot of money to spend or people who may not consider themselves “handy.”
The system concentrates on giving people the step by step guides they needed to create solar and wind energy producing systems right in their own background, so they can cut their energy bills drastically.
The package includes 6 videos which concentrate on creating your solar power system. They show you how to choose the right materials, to find the perfect place for your new solar panels, to avoid costly mistakes, to make a few simple but critical tweaks to yours panels to maximize power output, as well as 2 companion construction manuals.
There are also 4 videos that show you the best sources and parts for you wind turbine, how to find the perfect spot for your turbine, and how to draw maximum power from your turbine, as well as 2 companion construction manuals.
All 10 videos and 4 guides for the solar panel and wind turbine project construction, as well as the bonus guides for solar heater construction and maximizing solar heat throughout your home is $27.
If you have any experience with this system, then please leave your Power 4 Patriots system reviews below.
Wouldn't it be funny if chicken little was the only one to survive?
There is a lot of buzz about something pending ...
maybe the sky is falling.
We all get to choose .. laugh at chicken little
Or plan ahead ... like with power independence,
It's easier to laugh ... and I bet those who are have plenty of ammo too ... right?
They have been telling us that solar doesn't work for 30 years. Recently I asked a panel of Utility Executives if solar works in Seattle, even under the clouds. They said yes, we have projects up and running. So where are all the engineers that said solar will not work under clouds? They have been lying to us. When the Obama Admin is done, our power rates will go up, and stay up...look at gasoline and diesel prices. US energy policy is tax carbon and raise prices.
Their plan is to make it too expensive to drive, putting the poor on mass transit. It's a plan, all out in the open. They lied to us about solar, they lied to us about electric cars, and they are still trying to convince us that hydrogen won't work, but it's working in Europe.
If you didn't know any of these easily research-able facts, then it's worth $27 just to open your eyes.
Your power bill will double before the next election. Gasoline will be $5 a gallon. A generator will cost a fortune to operate. Your home will not have power during the next blackout. You think there wont be another one? You don't need batteries to use solar, but it will be nice at night.
There is NO competition for energy utilities. How many of you have a choice. You own the wires and the pipes, they are public utilities. That is the scam. If there was only one place to fill your car, you might have to pay $20 a gallon.
Complete scam. He hypes/scares you to open your wallet. Why on earth do I have to watch his 3 minute video to buy a product? Why can't he lay out the facts up front on one page. Plus when you try to leave the site, it "grabs" you with a pop-up to stay... Basic marketing for scammers. This "one weird trick" crap is getting old. Like the other scamming sites that claim "this one trick will make you lose 30 pounds"
Save your money.
It's all simple information available anywhere. Their alarmist political model shows the real purpose of their system: scare you into buying sub-standard equipment.
the man saved anyone countless hours by compiling this info.It's a good start but that doesn't mean that one will not have to spend more hours of research to fit this program into one's own particular situation. i think it would be worth the money to save looking for a place to start.
I disliked the conspiracy talk, found it useless and unhelpful. I'm not prepared to build what P4P claims to offer. Instead I'd want to see an actual prototype before committing to anything.
I've been interested in solar and wind energy for 35 years, hoping for it's development so as to minimize polution and not have to rely on a costly, huge infrastructure that can fail due to disasters, terrorism, wear & tear and emergency fall out from nuclear waste leakage. Any power grid infrastructure needs maintenance, improvement -- parts wear out and technology improves. I know there are lots of scientists and mechanical engineers that have the brain-power to collaborate and come up with truthful, working solutions to make solar and wind power viable. Unfortunately, there seems to be alot of reacting to the short-term rather than plan smart, long-term solutions.
Products should be sold on their merits. The hucksters here are trying to use your potential disdain for government or hate for our black President or calling you a patriot, or stoking your fear about the world coming to and end or a fabled race riot or all of the above to get you to act on something that is supposed to mitigate your fears.
Don't fall for it patriots. Do your own research. Generate your own power. But don't reward these morons.
There are a lot of complaints about this product on the BBB. Most cite this as being a scam. What you actually will receive is one lone DVD without very much information. You would be better served doing the research yourself or checking out your local library or bookstore. Most of the information provided you can get for free, or you can spend less than $20 at a bookstore and get much better info on solar and wind power that you will receive with this product.
No need to spend 27 dollars on something you can find full info on for COMPLETELY FREE on the web lol
I'm serious about researching ways to cut my costs. If you are in this discussion then you should be too. Don't come to this discussion to talk politics or to criticize this guy's marketing strategy. Everyone has a right to "vent" and he is just has a bit too much in his spiel to please everyone.
But the weeks and months that have gone into researching and preparing this information product for us will save us countless weeks and months and $$$ of our own trial and error.
So if you are budget minded and looking for how to cut costs for the long run then the 27 dollars for this product is a bargain. It's not even as much as one of the tools you'll need to buy as you start off on the road of budget friendly cost saving investments.
But if you are just a wealthy, green loving, environmentally concerned, tree huger, well, good for you. We need more people like you, but you should be buying a Prius and paying a company to install your solar power instead of buying this information package which you would never watch anyway.
I haven't bought it, haven't seen it, but I know the principle is highly successful in California for several people I know who produce their own home energy and save money.
I am only voting to offset the ignorance of people who malign a product they haven't tried and really know nothing about. It seems a lot of people are maligning this guys product as emotional reaction to how he presents it or because of something someone else says.
How about leaving the reviews to the people who bought the DVD or actually know something about it! This isn't a political forum. It's a do-it-yourself DVD, nothing more!!!!
I have not built-out this system and have only watched a few videos and reviewed the materials. It is a shame that they have decided to market this product with a cheezy, scare tactics video since the materials themselves are well-done by professionals sincerely interested in teaching you how to build your own systems. The proper caveats are offered and the kit does seem to include everything you need to realistically build your own solar and wind-power systems.
Although the directions are step-by-step, a certain amount of handiness would be beneficial. Also, the proper tools are required which needs to be considered in evaluating your savings.
Other than the snake-oil marketing, if you are considering alternative energy options this kit is worth the money in helping you make an educated decision whether this is for you and if you should attempt it on your own or hire a professional.
These guys put MONTHS to research, compile, organize, film, and publish this information. If you're truly interested in solar and wind power how much time would you spend googel-ing this information??? IF you ARE interested in this, I'd say $27 is a fair deal. Why bash this guy who's providing information for a price? Isn't that the American way? Free-Markets? Entrepreneurial spirit? Creating jobs? People are nuts.
The first indication that it’s a scam is that a legitimate product doesn’t need political rambling and rhetoric in its advertising promotion to sell itself
what was the name of the guy who was tied up and told to give up all the info on solar power and wind energy to the guy who is going to sell you "his" information for 27 bucks?
read James Wolstenholme; Friendship, WI
He talks about individual panels.
I read online for the information, and the panels are not the most expensive part. Not to mention our community will not allow installations on the roof without permission (and who wants the equipment to take up the whole backyard?), but without the permission of the electric company, to turn it all on...
makes me really wonder.
Individually regulated panels sound like the way to go. However storage and conversion AC / DC sound like the really expensive issues. Why don't they use the system they do in England:
You pay for the solar panels and system, you get the sales from your excess electricity on the grid.
The electric company pays the whole system (everything included), and you get free electricity for the use of your roof, plus zero maintenance and upkeep.
Of course, with the free electricity deal, you try to use as much energy as possible (not very environmentally sustainable).
The other way around, you have to think of how much energy you use and calculate if it pays off within the twenty-year's life of the system.
It doesn't seem to pay off in dollars and cents.
Does anyone know how (and which one?) to build a system in Tucson, AZ, which will run (the latest update) fridge, (low-watt) lights, water heater (not yet installed, which one?) and an electric car (which one, Chevy Volt, for example?)???
How much should I expect to spend?
I appreciate any info.
For entertainment value I rate a 3. That is for the sales pitch and some of the reviews. Just cant beat extreme conservative/liberal clash.
As for the book I rate a 3. I have pretty good knowledge of active and passive solar. I Installed electric and hot water systems back in the 70s during the 1st energy crisis. The business went away because of cheaper oil. I don't think that will happen this time.So If you own your home it will benefit you to be knowledgeable about solar. If you don't know allot this book will give you the basics. For that reason and the price I rate it a 3. Don't fool yourself because after reading this book you will have even more questions and that's where the internet comes in to play for refined information.The whole key here is to become educated then you can decide to build it yourself or hire a contractor. There are so many variables and this isn't cheap. But depending where you live, the tax credits, grants and low interest loans bring the price way down. I know of many professionally installed systems that have a payback period of 6 to 10 years and a system life expectancy of 20 years.These are not off the grid and are sized to produce enough power to sell to the power company so you get a 0 of very low bill. Some of these systems are sized to payoff a backup generator too during that payback period.So you have power from solar, power co and backup generator for 20 years for the price of 10 years power bill.
If you want to get political press you politicians for more tax,grant and loan incentives for solar.because many states don't offer these incentives. Hey I think I can say something that both conservatives and liberals can agree on. Maybe a conspiracy as to why this is not supported more. Just kidding
Come on people - I'll bet half of the bashers buy a latte a week - maybe more. So at $4 for a cup of coffee you can't get 7 before you've spent more than $27.
I've hunted for years using a solar shower arrangement. Actually works pretty well. REI sells a 2.5 gallon solar shower for $18-23.
I'd love to figure out how to build this on a larger scale for the house. That information alone is likely worth the $.
Just watched the video and almost ordered it. Then decided to check it out. I am fairly handy and a pretty good mechanic. Was more worried about the security of the order site than whether it is a scam.
If some of these so-called reviewers would spend more time watching PBS they would know that there are solar panels that produce AC voltage and do not need any conversion. There are some company's, as one of the reviewers mentioned, that lease power systems.
I for one am going to purchase this product and check it out. Given all the info that is supposed to be included, I think it will be well worth it, considering the amount of research it would take to accumulate it. Will return to give it a review.
I had a solar water heater system years ago, which I had installed in a 'sun' room. Even if it was 40 degrees outside, as long as it was sunny, I had significant heat gain. I would open to doors to the sunroom and help heat my house. As far as water goes, the water would heat to around 100 degrees in the winter--on sunny days. In the summer....You could actually boil the water in your water tank, that is why 'tempering' valves are used to add cold water to the storage tank to keep the water a safe temperature. My system used anti-freeze with a heat exchanger, so it didn't need to be drained during hard freezes. And really you can heat the water for free in the summer with a water only system. You can buy completed solar panel systems that could work for limited usage..They are sold for RVs which are often 'off the grid'. Again the deep cycle batteries are the limiting factor. Maybe gurus can come up with more efficient deep cycle batteries. If batteries work in a Prius..couldn't they work for home. Maybe buy a wrecked Prius and very carefully use car.s power pack. I know there is very high voltage involved. Maybe some techie could make a business out of safely removing and converting Prius power packs into home energy storage units. Just a thought