About Power 4 Patriots
The Power 4 Patriots system is a new guide from Frank Bates, who says that anyone, regardless of skill or knowledge, can use his system to create their own home electrical system and slash their current bill by 75%.
According to his website, Bates says that electricity monopolies and government agencies are “incompetent, lying crooks” who are keeping your heating bills “criminally high,” but that you have the ability to change that.
The Power 4 Patriots system claims to be 100% legal and will work even for people who don’t have a lot of money to spend or people who may not consider themselves “handy.”
The system concentrates on giving people the step by step guides they needed to create solar and wind energy producing systems right in their own background, so they can cut their energy bills drastically.
The package includes 6 videos which concentrate on creating your solar power system. They show you how to choose the right materials, to find the perfect place for your new solar panels, to avoid costly mistakes, to make a few simple but critical tweaks to yours panels to maximize power output, as well as 2 companion construction manuals.
There are also 4 videos that show you the best sources and parts for you wind turbine, how to find the perfect spot for your turbine, and how to draw maximum power from your turbine, as well as 2 companion construction manuals.
All 10 videos and 4 guides for the solar panel and wind turbine project construction, as well as the bonus guides for solar heater construction and maximizing solar heat throughout your home is $27.
If you have any experience with this system, then please leave your Power 4 Patriots system reviews below.
62 ‘Power 4 Patriots’ Reviews
This is way off topic but why even worry about whether it's a scam? Just go to the library and research electricity. Start with how it works and then look at how to stabilize the current. My plan is to build a rail with large capacitors to provide a stable 50 amp current to the house. Before the power gets there I want to design solar and battery setup which is turned on and off by zener diodes and relays. It should be simple enough to program an Arduino to control the voltage to keep your batteries from overcharging if you don't know how to design circuits. This crap really is easy, I don't intend to buy into the Power 4 Patriots BS because I have a pretty good understanding of how electrical current works.
Will someone who built the system please review it. I'm sick of people who never tried it call it a scam.
I would like to hear from someone who bought the system and built it. I'm tired of hearing supporters of the President call it a scam because the ad is critical of him. One idiot even brought up the race card. I'm sorry but a bad President is a bad President no matter what color he is. Enough about politics I just want to know if this system works.
Keith M - NJ
Always a Scam Ive heard this same guy in another scam I think it was stocks
90% of people work for a living you know what the other 10% do. They find out how to F@$& out of that living. That is what this guy does stay clear
Hooking onto the electric grid?
If you will check with your home electric company you will find that they don't let just anyone connect to their grid. You will have to buy some very expensive equipment to sync your system to their grid. That will cost you about 5 years of normal electric bills. plus a certified electrical contractor to install it all. Payback about 200 years.
i ordered it
I just ordered this program , don't know if it is worth it or not time will tell. but I am busy and don't have the time to review and research
all info to try and build, im not rich but willing to pay for there time and knowledge they have. I hope everything works if not I have wasted more money at the boats. if any one has any more knowledge about this I would like to here about it
It seems that this is more of a political forum than an assessment of a product. The research is probably worth the $30 bucks but do just a little research yourself and you`ll find that the cost of materials/tools vs. the savings on your bill is still not economically feasible yet. I had the bad experience of purchasing an $8,000 solar water system back in the early `80`s and although I`m sure design and efficiency have improved since then, it would`ve taken that piece of crap 20 yrs. to recoup my cost. Not much improvement since then.
The sky is falling!
Wouldn't it be funny if chicken little was the only one to survive?
There is a lot of buzz about something pending ...
maybe the sky is falling.
We all get to choose .. laugh at chicken little
Or plan ahead ... like with power independence,
It's easier to laugh ... and I bet those who are have plenty of ammo too ... right?
Scam was that solar doesn't work.
They have been telling us that solar doesn't work for 30 years. Recently I asked a panel of Utility Executives if solar works in Seattle, even under the clouds. They said yes, we have projects up and running. So where are all the engineers that said solar will not work under clouds? They have been lying to us. When the Obama Admin is done, our power rates will go up, and stay up...look at gasoline and diesel prices. US energy policy is tax carbon and raise prices.
Their plan is to make it too expensive to drive, putting the poor on mass transit. It's a plan, all out in the open. They lied to us about solar, they lied to us about electric cars, and they are still trying to convince us that hydrogen won't work, but it's working in Europe.
If you didn't know any of these easily research-able facts, then it's worth $27 just to open your eyes.
Your power bill will double before the next election. Gasoline will be $5 a gallon. A generator will cost a fortune to operate. Your home will not have power during the next blackout. You think there wont be another one? You don't need batteries to use solar, but it will be nice at night.
There is NO competition for energy utilities. How many of you have a choice. You own the wires and the pipes, they are public utilities. That is the scam. If there was only one place to fill your car, you might have to pay $20 a gallon.
You can't get this same information elsewhere for free
Complete scam. He hypes/scares you to open your wallet. Why on earth do I have to watch his 3 minute video to buy a product? Why can't he lay out the facts up front on one page. Plus when you try to leave the site, it "grabs" you with a pop-up to stay... Basic marketing for scammers. This "one weird trick" crap is getting old. Like the other scamming sites that claim "this one trick will make you lose 30 pounds"
Save your money.
Power for Patriots is a scam
It's all simple information available anywhere. Their alarmist political model shows the real purpose of their system: scare you into buying sub-standard equipment.
the man saved anyone countless hours by compiling this info.It's a good start but that doesn't mean that one will not have to spend more hours of research to fit this program into one's own particular situation. i think it would be worth the money to save looking for a place to start.
Disliked the conspiracy talk, useless and unhelpful.
I disliked the conspiracy talk, found it useless and unhelpful. I'm not prepared to build what P4P claims to offer. Instead I'd want to see an actual prototype before committing to anything.
I've been interested in solar and wind energy for 35 years, hoping for it's development so as to minimize polution and not have to rely on a costly, huge infrastructure that can fail due to disasters, terrorism, wear & tear and emergency fall out from nuclear waste leakage. Any power grid infrastructure needs maintenance, improvement -- parts wear out and technology improves. I know there are lots of scientists and mechanical engineers that have the brain-power to collaborate and come up with truthful, working solutions to make solar and wind power viable. Unfortunately, there seems to be alot of reacting to the short-term rather than plan smart, long-term solutions.
What a scam
Products should be sold on their merits. The hucksters here are trying to use your potential disdain for government or hate for our black President or calling you a patriot, or stoking your fear about the world coming to and end or a fabled race riot or all of the above to get you to act on something that is supposed to mitigate your fears.
Don't fall for it patriots. Do your own research. Generate your own power. But don't reward these morons.
Not worth it
There are a lot of complaints about this product on the BBB. Most cite this as being a scam. What you actually will receive is one lone DVD without very much information. You would be better served doing the research yourself or checking out your local library or bookstore. Most of the information provided you can get for free, or you can spend less than $20 at a bookstore and get much better info on solar and wind power that you will receive with this product.
No need to spend 27 dollars on something you can find full info on for COMPLETELY FREE on the web lol
Beyond the marketing hype the product is a sound investment
I'm serious about researching ways to cut my costs. If you are in this discussion then you should be too. Don't come to this discussion to talk politics or to criticize this guy's marketing strategy. Everyone has a right to "vent" and he is just has a bit too much in his spiel to please everyone.
But the weeks and months that have gone into researching and preparing this information product for us will save us countless weeks and months and $$$ of our own trial and error.
So if you are budget minded and looking for how to cut costs for the long run then the 27 dollars for this product is a bargain. It's not even as much as one of the tools you'll need to buy as you start off on the road of budget friendly cost saving investments.
But if you are just a wealthy, green loving, environmentally concerned, tree huger, well, good for you. We need more people like you, but you should be buying a Prius and paying a company to install your solar power instead of buying this information package which you would never watch anyway.
Review of reviewers
I haven't bought it, haven't seen it, but I know the principle is highly successful in California for several people I know who produce their own home energy and save money.
I am only voting to offset the ignorance of people who malign a product they haven't tried and really know nothing about. It seems a lot of people are maligning this guys product as emotional reaction to how he presents it or because of something someone else says.
How about leaving the reviews to the people who bought the DVD or actually know something about it! This isn't a political forum. It's a do-it-yourself DVD, nothing more!!!!
Not a Rip-off
I have not built-out this system and have only watched a few videos and reviewed the materials. It is a shame that they have decided to market this product with a cheezy, scare tactics video since the materials themselves are well-done by professionals sincerely interested in teaching you how to build your own systems. The proper caveats are offered and the kit does seem to include everything you need to realistically build your own solar and wind-power systems.
Although the directions are step-by-step, a certain amount of handiness would be beneficial. Also, the proper tools are required which needs to be considered in evaluating your savings.
Other than the snake-oil marketing, if you are considering alternative energy options this kit is worth the money in helping you make an educated decision whether this is for you and if you should attempt it on your own or hire a professional.
Why the Bashing?
These guys put MONTHS to research, compile, organize, film, and publish this information. If you're truly interested in solar and wind power how much time would you spend googel-ing this information??? IF you ARE interested in this, I'd say $27 is a fair deal. Why bash this guy who's providing information for a price? Isn't that the American way? Free-Markets? Entrepreneurial spirit? Creating jobs? People are nuts.
The first indication that it’s a scam is that a legitimate product doesn’t need political rambling and rhetoric in its advertising promotion to sell itself